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China openly discussing collapse of North Korea
American Thinker ^ | 10/02/2017 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 10/02/2017 9:30:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

China has sent an unmistakable signal that Kim Jong-un had better not rely on the historic alliance between China and North Korea to resist President Trump's demands.  In fact, as he dallies with his troop of teen sex slaves, he had better keep in mind that Beijing is wondering what it might be like with the Kim dynasty out of the way.

The Chinese way of delivering such a harsh message is to use a third party – preferably one without a policy role, but who clearly speaks for the ruling elite.  Someone, for instance, like the dean of international studies at Beijing University (the Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Stanford of China).

Patrick Baert of AFP writes:

Jia Qingguo, dean of the School of International Studies at Peking University, raised eyebrows earlier in September when he published an article entitled: "Time to prepare for the worst in North Korea".

The paper was published in English in East Asia Forum, a website of the Australian National University, but it is unlikely that he could have released it without the approval of Chinese authorities.

Jia urged Beijing to start discussing contingency plans with the United States and South Korea -- talks that the two nations have sought in the past but China has resisted for fear of upsetting Pyongyang.

"When war becomes a real possibility, China must be prepared. And, with this in mind, China must be more willing to consider talks with concerned countries on contingency plans," Jia wrote.

This comparatively mild language is telling KJU that in a war, China might not be on the North Korean side.


(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: china; kimjongun; northkorea
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1 posted on 10/02/2017 9:30:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Translation...fat little rocket man is a short timer


2 posted on 10/02/2017 9:35:43 AM PDT by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand....never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: SeekAndFind

If the strategic goal of North Korea is to reunite the Koreas, why would they fire rockets over Japan?

If you are China, and North Korea is your puppet, you fire rockets over Japan to keep them worried.

North Korea is China’s puppet.


3 posted on 10/02/2017 9:36:40 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SeekAndFind
IOW the Norks have become more of a liability to the Chicoms than an asset.
4 posted on 10/02/2017 9:37:10 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (ObamaCare Works For Those Who Don't.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Not the NORKs but Kim Jong Un as their leader
He has shown extreme disrespect to China
He is replaceable


5 posted on 10/02/2017 9:39:06 AM PDT by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: blueunicorn6

You nailed it. NK is China’s junkyard dog and they let it off leash to terrorize the neighbors.


6 posted on 10/02/2017 9:39:12 AM PDT by Tallguy (Twitter short-circuits common sense. Please engage your brain before tweeting.)
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To: SeekAndFind

There is no place for a evil, freak nation like North Korea in the 21st century. North Korea must cease to exist.


7 posted on 10/02/2017 9:39:26 AM PDT by Spruce
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To: SeekAndFind

Soon Rocket Man’s supporters will be down to the Democrats and the media.


8 posted on 10/02/2017 9:39:49 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Go Trump!


9 posted on 10/02/2017 9:40:15 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SeekAndFind

I was hoping China would take our President Trump at his word... and looks like they are. This is what will work... tough talk and determination.. which the past Presidents did not have... and which the media will give no credit to the man who is not afraid to do what is right..

To play chicken with the enemy does absolutely nothing but emboldens them... it never solved a thing.. it just proved the those who tried to feed the snake, will be eaten by the snake.


10 posted on 10/02/2017 9:41:18 AM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: blueunicorn6

RE: If you are China, and North Korea is your puppet, you fire rockets over Japan to keep them worried.

And why would China want to do that? Don’t they trade with Japan? Doesn’t Japan have lots of factories in China?


11 posted on 10/02/2017 9:52:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

China’s patience is worn to a frazzle with this idiot.

He is endangering their trade and money making............................


12 posted on 10/02/2017 9:55:01 AM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: SeekAndFind
Pinging Brit Hume! Trump wins again.
13 posted on 10/02/2017 9:55:51 AM PDT by Chgogal (Sessions recused himself for shaking an Ambassador's hand. Shameful!)
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To: blueunicorn6
North Korea is China’s puppet.

I think you have it backwards. Firing missiles over Japan is a form of shakedown. What the Norks want is money. As long as they can keep the Chinese subsidizing them they can stay in power. They keep the cash flowing by keeping the Chinese afraid of what will happen if their regime collapses, or if it provokes a conflict with the US and its allies in the region.

14 posted on 10/02/2017 10:00:17 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: SeekAndFind

If NK gets A-bombs and missiles, targets in China are a LOT closer than the US.


15 posted on 10/02/2017 10:23:04 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: SeekAndFind
Russia shares a border with NK and I'm sure they'd love to move right in, given the opportunity.

NK and Russia have cooperated in the past - Remember all those Russian MiGs during the Korean War?

At the same time, and in the same war, divisions of Chinese troops fought alongside the North Koreans.

It's a delicate balancing act Rocket Man is involved in - with Russia, China, South Korea, Japan, USA all vying for his country. If I was to guess, I'd say he survives for now.

16 posted on 10/02/2017 10:29:17 AM PDT by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is interesting, North Korea cannot survive without China.


17 posted on 10/02/2017 10:33:44 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: SeekAndFind

Japan is one external enemy China is using for their Big Lie internal propaganda.


18 posted on 10/02/2017 10:37:11 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Tallguy; blueunicorn6
You nailed it. NK is China’s junkyard dog and they let it off leash to terrorize the neighbors.

If a man purposely let his mad dog off its leash and my child was mauled and killed the primary target for my rage would be the master, not the dog.

19 posted on 10/02/2017 11:24:46 AM PDT by WMarshal (President Trump, a president keeping his promises to the American people. It feels like winning.)
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To: SeeSharp

” Firing missiles over Japan is a form of shakedown.”
True, but that is North Korea’s motivation.

For China I’d think they might still be concerned/angry with Japan and not anxious to push the Japanese to further rearm (or heaven forbid actually assemble some of there nuclear weapons).

Also, if China were to see a US action as inevitable then they are faced with an unwelcome set of alternatives: 1) Oppose the US militarily, 2) Drop support for NK, 3) Pressure NK into behaving. Avoid #1, Implement #2 early to maintain credibility, Pursue #3 (what’s to lose?).


20 posted on 10/02/2017 11:34:41 AM PDT by conejo99
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