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IBM Now Has More Employees in India Than in the U.S.
NY Times ^ | 9/28/2017 | Vindu Goel

Posted on 09/29/2017 8:41:30 AM PDT by RightGeek

But over the last decade, IBM has shifted its center of gravity halfway around the world to India, making it a high-tech example of the globalization trends that the Trump administration has railed against.

Today, the company employs 130,000 people in India — about one-third of its total work force, and more than in any other country. Their work spans the entire gamut of IBM’s businesses, from managing the computing needs of global giants like AT&T and Shell to performing cutting-edge research in fields like visual search, artificial intelligence and computer vision for self-driving cars. One team is even working with the producers of Sesame Street to teach vocabulary to kindergartners in Atlanta.

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The work in India has been vital to keeping down costs at IBM, which has posted 21 consecutive quarters of revenue declines as it has struggled to refashion its main business of supplying tech services to corporations and governments.

The tech industry has been shifting jobs overseas for decades, and other big American companies like Oracle and Dell also employ a majority of their workers outside the United States.

But IBM is unusual because it employs more people in a single foreign country than it does at home. The company’s employment in India has nearly doubled since 2007, even as its work force in the United States has shrunk through waves of layoffs and buyouts. Although IBM refuses to disclose exact numbers, outsiders estimate that it employs well under 100,000 people at its American offices now, down from 130,000 in 2007. Depending on the job, the salaries paid to Indian workers are one-half to one-fifth those paid to Americans, according to data posted by the research firm Glassdoor.

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The rest of the article is Times telling us what a swell thing this is.
1 posted on 09/29/2017 8:41:31 AM PDT by RightGeek
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To: RightGeek

I’m curious as to how many in management there are white expats?

Lots I’d bet


2 posted on 09/29/2017 8:43:36 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat ("I am SpartaLee" Hey, NFL, why didn't you any of you bold guys hire Kaepernick? #GoodbyeGoodell)
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To: RightGeek

This really disgusts me. Research should be done here. We’re the ones that take it from “0” to “1”.


3 posted on 09/29/2017 8:46:18 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: RightGeek

I worked for IBM in the early 1980’s and they had a famous no layoff policy that did not last into the 21st century.


4 posted on 09/29/2017 8:46:20 AM PDT by jimmygrace
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To: RightGeek

Well it is “International” Business Machines...


5 posted on 09/29/2017 8:49:35 AM PDT by henkster (The View: A psychiatric group therapy session where the shrink has stepped out of the room.)
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To: RightGeek; A_Former_Democrat

and they all claim, that each of them, are able to speak and understand American English.


6 posted on 09/29/2017 8:51:52 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: jimmygrace

No layoffs is an easy policy when revenue keeps going up. But they keep missing boats. They continued to bet on big iron as the world went small, they completely ignored virtualization, and they haven’t noticed they could become a serious cloud company in about 5 minutes.


7 posted on 09/29/2017 8:52:06 AM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: RightGeek

They had quite a few employees at Auschwitz, Buchenwald, Dachau, etc.


8 posted on 09/29/2017 8:53:26 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

That’s gonna leave a mark.


9 posted on 09/29/2017 8:54:34 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Manufacturing has gone overseas in most industries.
Sales/service type employment is the dominate sector.

United States Largest Private Employers (as of 2016)[1][2]
Rank Employer Global number of Employees
1 Wal-Mart Stores 2,300,000
2 Kroger 443,000
3 Yum China 420,000
4 International Business Machines 414,400
5 The Home Depot 406,000
6 McDonald's 375,000
7 Berkshire Hathaway 367,700
8 Amazon.com 341,400
9 FedEx 335,767
10 United Parcel Service 335,520

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10 posted on 09/29/2017 9:06:25 AM PDT by deport
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To: discostu

IBM would inflict a horrid cloud based version of Notes that would be somehow worse than the client.


11 posted on 09/29/2017 9:10:44 AM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: discostu

Yep. The fact that IBM let an online bookstore leave it in the cloud computing dust is pretty unbelievable


12 posted on 09/29/2017 9:13:38 AM PDT by montag813 (ue)
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To: discostu
Actually, Big Iron wasn't all that bad a bet. They just didn't capitalize on what they had. IBM was doing virtualization long before anyone else of note was. They just weren't fast enough to be able to market what they had in an intelligent way. VMWare ate their lunch and then Microsoft and others jumped on. I remember being amazed at the fact that IBM couldn't market itself out of a paper bag. I mean, they invented containers. Oh well, that's the way it goes when you get to big and don't have a cash cow to sustain you through mistakes.
13 posted on 09/29/2017 9:13:52 AM PDT by zeugma (I live in the present due to the constraints of the Space-Time Continuum. —Hank Green)
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Big iron was a good bet until it wasn’t. They never took desktops seriously and didn’t understand what desktops meant to the big iron world. Their relationship with virtualization is similar to their desktop relationship, they could do it, but they never understood the implications. Which is funny since VMWare basically brought back big iron, they should have been perfectly lined up for it.


14 posted on 09/29/2017 9:18:02 AM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: All

Most of _corporate_Ameria_ are now globalist, non-USA. Actually against USAians and our heritage.


15 posted on 09/29/2017 9:18:33 AM PDT by veracious (UN = OIC = Islam ; Democrats may change USAgov completely, just amend USConstitution)
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To: wally_bert

It’s funny how nobody has managed to make an e-mail server that’s not awful. Conceptually it doesn’t seem that hard, but they all stink.


16 posted on 09/29/2017 9:19:11 AM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: discostu

Notes seems to be designed by descendants of the Marquis De Sade.


17 posted on 09/29/2017 9:24:14 AM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: RightGeek

We have to deal with IBM India every day and they absolutely suck wind.


18 posted on 09/29/2017 9:33:26 AM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: RightGeek

Of course, India has more than three times as many people as the United States.


19 posted on 09/29/2017 9:38:35 AM PDT by Dilbert56
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To: RightGeek

Microsoft is an Indian company.

Even in Redmond, WA, USA, I would bet (based on my experience there) that the largest citizenship group by country of birth is Indian, not American.


20 posted on 09/29/2017 9:47:12 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The difference between Rs and Ds is what lies they tell to get power over you and steal your cash.)
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