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To: BeauBo

Russia has had a base in Syria for 40 years. We have a base in Turkey. By your logic that means Russia is justified in attacking Turkey.

Isis is in Syria? Yes, largely because the Obama adminstration helped create a power vacume by supporting they anti-Assad groups allied with ISIS. And Assad and Russia have been fighting them.

Now if being allied with Iran is reason to topple Assad, when to we go after Iraq? The government we put in place there is a defacto ally of Iran now. The way to deal with Iran is not to support jihadists against Assad, but to confront Iran directly.

As for NATO, we already have one Islamic member, who have been instrumental in getting us involved, because they want to be the new caliphate, starting with controlling Syria. Within a generation countries in Europe will become majority Muslim. That’s not speculation, just fact. Half the kidegarten children in France RIGHT NOW are Muslim.

I don’t know where your info about Syria being the largest AQ base in the world, but if so it’s because we allowed them to become so. There was no AQ presence when Assad had control. We allied with AQ affiliated jihadis to overthrow Assad. Assad may have been strategically opposed to Isreal, and therefore us, but the regime was relatively sane and restrained, until the Obama/Hillary/McCain crowd decided to overthrow him by backing jihadists. We have no interest in Syria that’s worth US lives and treasure.


11 posted on 09/28/2017 4:05:30 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: Hugin

EXCELLENT posting. Hard to believe that we still have people here drinking the deep-state Koolaid.

I watched the PBS show from a couple of years ago (smack middle of the war) called “Inside Assad’s Syria” (absolutely worth watching) and watching the people still under Assad, how they dressed, how they partied, how they adored Assad and how they knew what was in store for them if Assad loses...that was it for me, once again Deep State has been PLAYING US.


12 posted on 09/28/2017 4:17:18 PM PDT by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: Hugin

“I don’t know where your info about Syria being the largest AQ base in the world”

“Idlib Province is the largest al-Qaeda safe haven since 9/11,” says Brett McGurk”, the senior US envoy to the international coalition fighting Isis. (he tweeted this out a few weeks back, and has repeated it multiple fora. Here is one citation: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-defeat-al-quaeda-syria-grow-global-attention-islamist-terrorists-jihadis-un-us-west-iraq-raqqa-a7932881.html)

“...but if so it’s because we allowed them to become so”

So on the one hand you lament our not taking action to prevent this, while on the other hand, you want us to pull out and take no action, and allow the whole witches brew free reign to commit their mischief.

Logically inconsistent. That is because it is not feasible in the real world for us to be isolationist and safe for very long. It was not that long ago that the string of increasing terrorist attacks across the West were being planned and directed from Raqqa, Syria - but not now that we are in there bombing them to oblivion.


17 posted on 09/28/2017 5:09:37 PM PDT by BeauBo
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