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Otto Warmbier body showed no clear signs of torture - coroner
BBC News ^ | 28th September 2017 | bbc news

Posted on 09/27/2017 7:51:12 PM PDT by Ennis85

The coroner who examined Otto Warmbier's body has said there is no clear indication he had been tortured during his detention in North Korea. The comments contradict statements made by the US student's parents in a TV interview with Fox on Tuesday. They said North Korea had "systematically tortured" their son after he was jailed for stealing a sign during a holiday in Pyongyang in 2016. The Ohio county coroner said he had died from lack of oxygen to the brain. "We don't know what happened to him and that's the bottom line," Dr Lakshmi Sammarco said in a news conference on Wednesday. Otto Warmbier died in June shortly after being released by North Korea on medical grounds. He arrived home in a state of "unresponsive wakefulness". North Korea said he contracted botulism shortly after being sentenced, but US doctors have disputed this.

In their interview with Fox and Friends, Fred and Cindy Warmbier said when they first saw him on his return, their son was "jerking violently" and made "inhuman sounds".

They said his arms and legs were "totally deformed", he had a scar on his foot that had been an open wound for some time, and his bottom teeth looked "like someone had taken a pair of pliers" to them. "Otto was systematically tortured and intentionally injured by Kim and his regime," said Mr Warmbier. Dr Sammarco conducted an external examination and scans of Mr Warmbier's body - his parents refused a post-mortem. She said she was "surprised" by the Warmbier's statement.

"I felt very comfortable that there wasn't any evidence of trauma" to the teeth, she told reporters. There were only small scars on his body, including his foot. One of the scars could not be explained.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: korea; north; torture; warmbier
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1 posted on 09/27/2017 7:51:12 PM PDT by Ennis85
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To: Ennis85

Fake coroner. Anyone with common sense can tell this is torture.


2 posted on 09/27/2017 7:52:06 PM PDT by sagar
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To: Ennis85

No signs of what kind of torture?


3 posted on 09/27/2017 7:53:18 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Ennis85

Warmbier’s parents did not do autopsy when one was needed. They need to STFU and move on.


4 posted on 09/27/2017 7:55:23 PM PDT by anton
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To: Ennis85

So, why is this young man dead?


5 posted on 09/27/2017 7:56:39 PM PDT by fullchroma
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To: sagar

My common sense says that since I haven’t seen the body I have no idea whether or not he was tortured.


6 posted on 09/27/2017 7:57:11 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Ennis85

He hung himself-God bless him-and they caught him in time.JMO


7 posted on 09/27/2017 7:57:33 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Ennis85

I guess a twenty something kid died of natural causes?


8 posted on 09/27/2017 7:57:45 PM PDT by Sybeck1
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To: Ennis85

He was still alive when he was returned. He must have been admitted to a hospital almost immediately.

What do the medical records say?

With or without an autopsy, those records contain a ton of information. They would confirm if he was tortured.


9 posted on 09/27/2017 8:05:17 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: sagar

Fake coroner.

Puts me in mind of what Reagan said when, after being shot, he asked the doctor and nurses if they were Democrats. I put nothing past Trump haters, regardless to their vocation. Coroners included.


10 posted on 09/27/2017 8:08:41 PM PDT by sasportas
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11 posted on 09/27/2017 8:10:22 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Ennis85

Why would coroner lie?


12 posted on 09/27/2017 8:13:16 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: anton

Autopsies very frequently do not provide an answer as to cause of death. They help in making an educated guess, and sometimes give a definitive answer, but are often not definitive.


13 posted on 09/27/2017 8:20:35 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: anton

What a horrible, vile statement!
Where is your compassion?


14 posted on 09/27/2017 8:27:10 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: fatima

That was my guess, he hung himself and they caught him before he died but not before he had severe brain damage from lack of oxygen.


15 posted on 09/27/2017 8:28:17 PM PDT by Husker24
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“...he asked the doctor and nurses if they were Democrats.”
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Actually, President Reagan asked the doctor if he was a Republican.

The doctor replied, “Mr. President, today we are all Republicans.” (or words to that effect).


16 posted on 09/27/2017 8:32:28 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation ("You can't fix America without pissing off the people who broke it".....Bill Mitchell)
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To: Ennis85

Did the family take video and photographs? And if not, why not?


17 posted on 09/27/2017 8:33:03 PM PDT by mlizzy (America needs no words from me to see how your decision in Roe/Wade has deformed a great nation. -MT)
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To: Husker24

God bless Him.I feel for the parents.Been there..


18 posted on 09/27/2017 8:39:31 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Guenevere

Why is he dead.He came back alive.In terrible shape but he was alive.His parents offed him.Give him the morfine and let him go to sleep.


19 posted on 09/27/2017 8:43:38 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Ennis85

What happened to Otto Warmbier? I have an idea. I was stupid enough to take a school trip to Russia and East Berlin during the Cold War. We followed MOST of the rules. Some of us got caught and damaged, some of us didn’t.

Otto Warmbier’s family: May he rest in peace. He did in his youthful curiosity what I did in mine. I would love to give you a hug.


20 posted on 09/27/2017 9:02:01 PM PDT by KJC1 (When you are dealing with the devil, the only answer is God.)
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