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Could tax reform be the win Republicans are looking for?
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | September 27, 2017 | Francine Kiefer

Posted on 09/27/2017 3:39:20 PM PDT by Jagermonster

PUTTING IT IN PERSPECTIVE   While far from a sure thing, the plan isn't as visceral as cutting Medicaid, and could be an easier lift for the GOP than health care. Trump is reaching out to Democrats, and may find some takers, though they generally panned the plan as a gift to the wealthy.

WASHINGTON—Reeling from three failed attempts to “repeal and replace” Obamacare, Republicans are looking to score a political win before the year’s end with an issue they hope will be more unifying for the party: tax reform.

President Trump hit the road in Indiana Wednesday to promote the framework of his tax plan, while Republicans back in Washington talked it up as well. With many details and legislative language still to fill in, they are touting what they say is a simpler, fairer tax code geared toward the middle class and designed to make American businesses more competitive globally.

Notably, Mr. Trump is taking a different approach than he did on health care. The White House has tried to bridge differences between the GOP’s warring factions in advance of the rollout. And Trump has been reaching out to – and pressuring – Democrats, hoping at least some of them will come on board.

In Indiana, the president characterized the plan as a “miracle for the middle class, for the working person” as Sen. Joe Donnelly, a Democrat up for reelection, looked on. Trump said he expected “numerous” Democrats to come on board. If Senator Donnelly doesn’t approve it, “we will come here, we will campaign against him like you wouldn’t believe,” he said, breaking into a big grin and waving his arm in a kind of "just kidding" (though not) gesture.

(Excerpt) Read more at csmonitor.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: obamacare; repeal; taxes; taxreform
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Gah! I wish they'd leave the tax code alone. This constant tinkering around the margins for this constituent or that crony is pointless, and just adds up to bad press in the end.
1 posted on 09/27/2017 3:39:20 PM PDT by Jagermonster
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To: Jagermonster

This incompetent bunch won’t get anything passed!


2 posted on 09/27/2017 3:40:11 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Jagermonster

They’ll be too busy trying to pass amnesty for illegals to get around to this.


3 posted on 09/27/2017 3:42:14 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Jagermonster
What I want in tax-reform is best expressed as as an Amendment to the Constitution:
Of the proposals I've seen, I particularly like the one from "Amendment Booklet.pdf" on Art in Idaho's ArtV/CoS list:
Proposals
Tax Reform Amendment Fiscal Responsibility Amendment
Section I
No tax, fee, fine, or judgement —federal, State, or subdivision of either— shall ever be withheld from any wage.

Section II
No property shall be seized for failure to pay taxes until after conviction in a jury trial; the right of the jury to nullify (and thereby forgive) this debt shall never be questioned or denied.

Section III
The second amendment is hereby recognized as restricting the power of taxation, both federal and state, therefore no tax (or fee, or fine) shall be laid upon munitions or the sale thereof.

Section IV
The seventh amendment is also hereby recognized, and nothing in this amendment shall restrict the right of a citizen to seek civil redress.

Section V
No income tax levied by the federal government, the several States, or any subdivision of either shall ever exceed 10%.

Section VI
No income tax levied by the federal government, the several States, or any subdivision of either shall ever apply varying rates to those in its jurisdiction.

Section VII
No retrospective, retroactive, or ex post facto tax, fee, or fine shall ever be valid; nor shall the Congress delegate the creation of any tax, fee, or fine in any way; nor shall Congress give any credit, exemption, or deduction to any person, class of persons, or corporation whatsoever.

Section VIII
No federal employee, representative, senator, judge, justice or agent shall ever be exempt from any tax, fine, or fee by virtue of their position.

Section IX
Any federal employee, representative, senator, judge, justice or agent abridging, attempting to abridge, or otherwise circumventing this amendment shall, upon conviction, be evicted from office and all retirement benefits forfeit.

Section I
The power of Congress to regulate the value of money is hereby rescinded; the unit of money of the United States is the Dollar.

Section II
The value of the Dollar shall be one fifteen-hundredth avoirdupois ounce of gold of which impurities do not exceed one part per thousand.

Section III
To guard against Congress using its authority over weights and measures to bypass Section I, the ounce in Section II is approximately 28.3495 grams (SI).

Section IV
The Secretary of the Treasury shall annually report the gold physically in its possession; this report shall be publicly available. Any five states may commission a third party audit to confirm this report at their own expense.

Section V
The power of the Congress to assume debt is hereby restricted: the congress shall assume no debt that shall cause the total obligations of the United States to exceed one hundred ten percent of the amount last reported by the Secretary of the Treasury.

Section VI
Any government agent, officer, judge, justice, employee, representative, or congressman causing gold, money, or real estate to be confiscated from a citizen shall be tried for theft and upon conviction shall:

  1. be removed from office (and fired, if an employee),
  2. forfeit all pension and retirement benefits,
  3. pay all legal costs, and
  4. restore to the bereaved twice the amount in controversy.

Section VII
The federal government shall assume no obligation lacking funding, neither shall it lay such obligation on any of the several States, any subdivision thereof, or any place under the jurisdiction of the United States. All unfunded liabilities heretofore assumed by the United States are void.

Section VIII
The federal government shall make all payments to its employees or the several states in physical gold. Misappropriation, malfeasance and/or misfeasance of funds shall be considered confiscation and theft.

Note that these two amendments puts an end to (a) fiat currency, (b) the debt/balanced-budget problem, (c) progressive income tax, (d) withholdings, (e) the ATF's stated operational authority [which is justified as taxes on munitions], and (f) allows for the jury to nullify the government's claim while, (g) making things like asset forfeiture a personal liability to those engaging/ordering it.


4 posted on 09/27/2017 3:47:58 PM PDT by Edward.Fish
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To: Edward.Fish

GOP will fail..bet on it


5 posted on 09/27/2017 3:48:54 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Jagermonster

there will be no tax reform, as long as McShame and Graham and Collins and McConnell and a couple more fraudent R’s are in there

the only changes will be tax increases I fear


6 posted on 09/27/2017 4:52:46 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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To: Hojczyk
OP will fail..bet on it

I do.
The truth of the situation is that the GOP stands for nothing, hoping that its base will fall for anything… but the base is becoming increasingly intolerant of their fecklessness, so it's only a matter of time.

7 posted on 09/27/2017 5:46:23 PM PDT by Edward.Fish
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To: Jagermonster

I hope not.

Living in Taxsylvania the elimination of the SALT deduction would probably cost me about $5000.00 increased Fed taxes.


8 posted on 09/27/2017 7:01:58 PM PDT by lightman (ANTIFA is full of Bolshevik.)
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To: All

Republicans are looking for a win? When did this happen?


9 posted on 09/27/2017 7:41:23 PM PDT by bagster (Even bad men love their mamas.)
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