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The Democrats' Gerrymandering Gambit
US News ^ | July 14, 2017 | Peter Roff

Posted on 09/27/2017 1:35:23 PM PDT by fwdude

My high school biology teacher, Dudley Davis, used to like to remind us all that "figures can't lie, but liars can figure." How right he was, especially when politics is somehow involved in the equation, as it is every time districts lines are redrawn for seats in Congress and state legislatures.

The Democrats have suddenly decided this is a problem – and have come up will all kinds of mathematical analyses and formulas to back their assertion up.

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A very thoughtful article on the issue of congressional districts.

Democrats hope that people don't notice that in order to engineer districts to favor them, they must gerrymander every bit as much as they accuse Republicans of doing.

1 posted on 09/27/2017 1:35:24 PM PDT by fwdude
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Another great passage from the article:

The Democrats apparently find it inconceivable they are losing elections because of what they stand for. The country is not with them when it comes to abortion on demand, the abolition of Second Amendment rights, forced unionization, identity politics and, among other things, the demands for so-called social justice made by those raised in a culture of victimization. America remains a center-right country where most people, as anti-tax crusader Grover G. Norquist has observed time and again, just want to be left alone.

2 posted on 09/27/2017 1:41:14 PM PDT by fwdude
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I am for having a computer draw up the Districts. And no, it wouldn’t infringe on ‘minority rights to be represented’ as minorities tend to live in areas surrounded by people like themselves. A computer drawing up the right number of Districts per state, with as close to population parity, is the only fair way to do it.


3 posted on 09/27/2017 1:41:16 PM PDT by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell)
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Then the programmers of the computers would be blamed for bias when drawing up the districts. That would not be a solution.


4 posted on 09/27/2017 1:42:36 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: originalbuckeye

The Migrant Compassion scam, which just coincidentally is favored by the US Chamber of Commerce and the Business Roundtable, operating since Clinton 42, could be called Demographic Gerrymandering.


5 posted on 09/27/2017 1:46:04 PM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: originalbuckeye

It wouldn’t work that way. At best you’d get guaranteed democrat/minority districts carved out for racial fairness, then the rest split “mathematically”. Add those together and you get Dem control in most states,


6 posted on 09/27/2017 1:46:34 PM PDT by Wayne07
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To: MrShoop

I’m talking no carve-outs at all. The minorities already seem to stick together, so there is no need to create any ‘special’ Districts for them. Just feed the map with accurate population numbers into the computer and live with the results.


7 posted on 09/27/2017 1:48:44 PM PDT by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell)
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To: originalbuckeye

Problem is, there would not be just “one” computer-generated result, but a multitude of equally viable solutions.

Who gets to pick which one?


8 posted on 09/27/2017 1:53:41 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: originalbuckeye

“as minorities tend to live in areas surrounded by people like themselves.”

Not as consistently as you might think. Some of the really screwy looking districts come from using demographic data to make a district that is composed predominantly of a minority group but from opposite sides of a metro area. All of this is part of dividing us up into racial factions with each faction having representatives. Better to ignore race/ethnicity entirely and make districts that are close in population and relatively consistent in height to width ratio, with only geographic and state lines creating large deviations from the typical ratio. On top of that we need 3-4x as many reps in congress so they actually have some contact with and answer to the community they represent instead of the lobbyists and power players.


9 posted on 09/27/2017 1:56:22 PM PDT by Flying Circus (God help us)
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To: fwdude

Nope. Just one map. Period. No disputes.


10 posted on 09/27/2017 2:02:19 PM PDT by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell)
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Nope. Just one map. Period. No disputes.

Again, which map?

11 posted on 09/27/2017 2:04:42 PM PDT by fwdude
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Just one, with equivalent populations in each District. Only one. Worth no ‘salamander’ type borders.


12 posted on 09/27/2017 2:10:09 PM PDT by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell)
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To: originalbuckeye

State AND federal both?


13 posted on 09/27/2017 2:14:43 PM PDT by fwdude
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Maryland is ground zero. The lone republican district wraps around my town. The congressional map looks like a monkey projectile vomited on a state map and they circled the puke with a sharpie.


14 posted on 09/27/2017 2:17:57 PM PDT by cyclotic (Trump tweets are the only news source you can trust.)
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The most gerrymandered districts are in Democrat-controlled states. MD-3 is the single most gerrymandered district in America.


15 posted on 09/27/2017 2:20:10 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Only their self-aggrandizement matters.)
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Maryland is ground zero. The lone republican district wraps around my town.

Like it is in most large urban areas. I live in a fairly conservative Texas urban county, but leftist judges have mandated that my district be included with an area on the other side of town.

16 posted on 09/27/2017 2:24:38 PM PDT by fwdude
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I live in Il-16.my congressman for 20 years was a rock-ribbed conservative,Don Manzullo.The democrats gerrymandered the 16th and 17 th district together in 2010. Since both were represented by Republicans,they were sure to get rid of one.Unfortunately the GOP rep from the 17th won and now I’m stuck with uber-RINO Adam Kinzinger.Almost as bad as a democrat.They made a district from a tiny sliver in South Chicago to gain a seat.


17 posted on 09/27/2017 2:29:04 PM PDT by pawpawrick (I had a life once but my job ate it)
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The most gerrymandered districts are in Democrat-controlled states.

Or in Republican-controlled states where Marxist judges have unconstitutionally wrested power from legislatures.

18 posted on 09/27/2017 2:31:41 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: fwdude

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19 posted on 09/27/2017 2:33:26 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for ,everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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...gerrymanders – the name given the practice of drawing oddly-shaped legislative districts to produce an outcome favorable to one party...

Sheila Jackson Lee's district, supposedly in Houston.

-PJ

20 posted on 09/27/2017 2:33:26 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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