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To: af_vet_rr

Regarding NASCAR, their ratings began to crater years ago when they stupidly discarded the traditional way they decided championships and replaced it with the entirely contrived chase system. Also, the death of Dale Earnhardt and retirements of Jeff Gordon and Dale Jr. have left the sport without a genuine superstar. As for your other points, you are right...there are many more entertainment alternatives these days than sitting passively in front of a TV watching trite unimaginative trash. However, the NFL seemed immune to ratings declines until last year when taking a knee became a thing.


15 posted on 09/27/2017 6:55:39 AM PDT by Avalon Memories (The question about fighting back is not what average people can to do, but how to do we do it?)
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To: Avalon Memories
Putting aside the bonehead moves by the owners of NASCAR, you are right - they've lost their interesting personalities.

As for the NFL, I know many people that have stopped watching or attending games long before the kneeling stuff. The product on the field just sucks, too much commercialization, attending in person sucks even when using a nice suite. When you look at how much time the players actually play on the field, versus how long the games run, it's a complete waste of time.

And we haven't even touched on how NFL team owners are doing everything they can to fleece the taxpayers out of millions and billions for new stadiums to replace stadiums that aren't all that old and are not decrepit. That's turning a lot of people off in a lot of cities.

It's hilarious that Trump is finally getting his revenge against the NFL. Ever since they excluded him back in the 80s, he's been angry with them, and if Trump can do one thing well, it's hold a grudge.

If people want to know the roots of the NFL's decline, ultimately it goes back many years, but you can factor in: moving teams (pissing off fans), fleecing taxpayers for new stadiums (pissing off fans), ridiculous ticket prices (pissing off fans), far too many commercials/commercialization (pissing off fans), allowing Bills fans to travel (pissing off other fans), Jerry Jones continued existence on this earth (pissing off fans), and the list goes on. Somebody kneeling or not kneeling is at the bottom of the list.
25 posted on 09/27/2017 7:12:05 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Avalon Memories

I agree with you about Nascar. Between the chase format and when they redesigned the cars as the “cars of tomorrow”, I lost a great deal of interest.


38 posted on 09/27/2017 4:26:09 PM PDT by Typelouder
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