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Health Bill Appears Dead as Pivotal G.O.P. Senator Declares Opposition
New York Times ^ | September 25, 2017 | Thomas Kaplan

Posted on 09/25/2017 3:20:27 PM PDT by Alter Kaker

WASHINGTON — Senator Susan Collins of Maine said on Monday that she would oppose the latest plan to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act, leaving Republican leaders clearly short of the votes they need for passage.

Ms. Collins, a Republican, announced her opposition in a written statement, delivering a significant and possibly fatal blow to the party’s seven-year quest to dismantle the health law.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: blindsquirrel; collins; grahamcassidy; mcconnellcare; obamacare; socialisedmedicine; stoppedclock; trump
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To: Lurkinanloomin
There was no repeal and very little replace in the bill. The ACA would be amended, but live on.

Worse than that. It would have given states the power to set up single payer systems. Remember what happened when Mitt Romney set up RomneyCare in Massachusetts?

21 posted on 09/25/2017 3:29:20 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

Man I’m just so surprised. Who saw that coming?


22 posted on 09/25/2017 3:30:23 PM PDT by datricker (The wall will protect the border and be a symbol the voters do have a say in their government.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I’ll say it again...we didn’t win chit!! With all these freakin RINOS and all the governorship we won mean DIDDLEY SQUAT when you have traitorous Bastards in the team!!!! Gutless SOB!!! Maybe a drone can shadow Collins!!!


23 posted on 09/25/2017 3:30:55 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: arrogantsob

As long as they are on our team, and our team can’t pass meaningful legislation, it’s we.

The Republican party hasn’t done jack this year.

Trump had to do an end run on them to get disaster relief.

How much worse could it get.

We both know they are undocumented Democrats. On that we agree.

The RP has allowed them to remain in the party for decades.

That’s our party for all the pain it give me to say it.

Trump’s own party, refused to do anything to help him.

If I sound angry about it, good. I am!


24 posted on 09/25/2017 3:34:10 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national puch-bowl.)
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To: Alter Kaker

25 posted on 09/25/2017 3:34:10 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Alter Kaker

Now that there are three who have said they aren’t voting for it watch four or five jump on the opposition bandwagon.


26 posted on 09/25/2017 3:35:13 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Alter Kaker

McConnell should drag their sorry butts into the Senate Chamber and make them vote. Over and over. Until they repeal Obamacare. Of course he really doesn’t want to repeal so we get this kabuki.


27 posted on 09/25/2017 3:36:22 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Alter Kaker
No surprise.

There is a critical mass of RINOs in the party. Nobody should expect anything truly conservative from this congress.

28 posted on 09/25/2017 3:37:19 PM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: chris37

It’s all beltway theater. Collins will retire and McCain will die. They’re just giving cover to their friends in the GOP who love Obamacare as much as they do but want to keep that fact under wraps.


29 posted on 09/25/2017 3:37:40 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: RoseofTexas

That’s right.

We do have to keep one thing in perspective though.

Look folks, I hate the Republican party right now. Still, if Hillary had been elected and we had a Democrat controlled Congress, there would have been hell pay.

WE HAVE GOT TO GET OF OUR ASSES AND PRIMARY PEOPLE!

It’s that simple.

We primary them or we put up with another two years of it.

We cannot give any power to full blown Democrats.

We’d have over 50 McCains, Snows, and Collins in charge at that point.

I detest what is happening to our nation, and our team simply refuses to get off it’s ass.

They’re all kneeling!!!! For the whole fricken two years!


30 posted on 09/25/2017 3:37:57 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national puch-bowl.)
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To: Alter Kaker; All

:-)

take this as a sign of opportunity, folks.

these failed GOP elitists are thinking there will be no consequences of their actions.

As many have pointed out, this bill is not as good as it could be (though I do agree with those who say it is a step in the right direction.)

I have heard over and over from the fakenews media that this is the “last ditch effort” to repeal Obamacare. As if Trump will be rendered helpless and the conservative movement to get rid of the Death Panels Law is going to with away.

Wrong.

We have now seen the faces of betrayal: Heller, Flake, Collins, McCain, etc. Their lackeys will pay the price even if they do not.

Let’s not forget the Democrats in Trump-winning states. They should be targeted for electoral annihilation, too.

The game is not over. We are not even through the first quarter of Trump’s term.


31 posted on 09/25/2017 3:38:34 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: DoughtyOne

We all are and the GOP has thrown no one out of the party after David Duke thirty years ago.

It is not monolithic.


32 posted on 09/25/2017 3:38:55 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: Alter Kaker

I wonder what the state government in California would have done to me under Graham Cassidy. I probably would be standing in line behind millions of illegal aliens.


33 posted on 09/25/2017 3:39:40 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: TChris

The Dems and Rhinos won’t budge until the money stops pouring into this BS healthcare plan. I THINK Trump could do this alone.


34 posted on 09/25/2017 3:40:57 PM PDT by CMailBag
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To: arrogantsob

I’ve come to realize that the Republican Congress is doing the same thing the football players are.

Instead of getting the job done, they’ve taken to kneeling when our nation deserves their respect the most.

The have no respect for us the Citizens of this nation either.

They want a global government. They don’t want us to be a sovereign nation any longer.


35 posted on 09/25/2017 3:42:53 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national puch-bowl.)
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To: Alter Kaker

THROW THE BUMS OUT!!!!

And get REAL AMERICANS in there who will OBLITERATE OBAMACARE FOREVER!!!


36 posted on 09/25/2017 3:43:38 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: CMailBag
I THINK Trump could do this alone.

I'm sure he would if he could.

This is a legislative matter. All he can do is keep pointing out their incompetence and hypocrisy. Hopefully it will make a difference come election time.

37 posted on 09/25/2017 3:43:54 PM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: Alter Kaker

Then why are 48 other Repugnants voting for it?


38 posted on 09/25/2017 3:44:59 PM PDT by nfldgirl
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To: Alter Kaker

Hate to keep stating the obvious but Trump could solve all of his problems with Congress in a New York minute with just one MOAB.

Or he could keep letting the likes of this subhuman and the rest of the scumbags on Capital Hill keep stealing our money and dicking us around.

No brainer.


39 posted on 09/25/2017 3:45:04 PM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

THANK YOU COLLINS! Either we have full, unconditional repeal, or let Obamacare implode!


40 posted on 09/25/2017 3:45:08 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (We're right, you're wrong - that's the end of the argument.)
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