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The New Gotcha Game of Variable Speed Limits
American Spectator ^ | 9/18/17 | Eric Peters

Posted on 09/18/2017 1:46:52 PM PDT by LibWhacker

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To: Founding Father; Political Junkie Too

$250 for speeding, paid by credit card.

$5,000 to $10,000 and months of court time.

Which do you chose?


41 posted on 09/18/2017 3:26:56 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: LibWhacker

Just start driving 20mph everywhere

Screw em


42 posted on 09/18/2017 3:34:00 PM PDT by GraceG ("It's better to have all the Right Enemies, than it is to have all the Wrong Friends.")
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To: Wuli
I don't know anyone who believes that Federal transportation funds are a "gift" from the Federal government. The point is that these funds allow many states to construct transportation infrastructure that they wouldn't be able to afford without it ... and yes, I know this is often at the expense of other states who pay far more in Federal fuel taxes than they get in Federal highway funds.

You can cut the Federal government completely out of the loop by eliminating the whole concept of a national transportation system. Good luck with that. There's actually a move among some members of Congress to legislate a "devolution" process that would do exactly that. The most vocal opponents of this process are Republican senators from landlocked states that would be absolutely screwed in this process.

The first national road was legislated by Congress in the very early 1800s during the Jefferson administration. There was quite a debate about the roles of the Federal and state governments in roads back then, and the Federal government won out simply because the establishment of a National Road from Baltimore to the Ohio River valley was one of the conditions under which Ohio was admitted to the Union. Even an anti-Federalist like Thomas Jefferson recognized that without road connections between the interior of North America to the cities and ports in the U.S. along the Atlantic seaboard, there was a serious danger that most of the continent would end up under the control of Great Britain.

43 posted on 09/18/2017 3:34:39 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: E.Allen

7 hours at 55 mph = 385 miles

7 hours at 75 mph = 525 miles

140 miles difference, on a (for me) short road trip.

I often drive for as long as 14 hours so double those numbers, though my average speed usually works out to between 60 and 70.


44 posted on 09/18/2017 3:42:42 PM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: LibWhacker

Another reason to have a dash cam.


45 posted on 09/18/2017 3:44:24 PM PDT by null and void (Because it's a firearms related word, I'm triggered by "trigger"...)
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To: TBP

There is a road by my place that the speed limit changes 5 times in 6 miles, including a ONE BLOCK section that the limit is set significantly higher than on either side of it.

I will only mention the school zones that the signs are obscured the day they install them...


46 posted on 09/18/2017 3:46:18 PM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: rockrr

“They use them against the SeattLunatics on I-5 in Washington.”

Funny - I’m not sure I ever viewed those things as a speed limit sign - more just as a warning of what the traffic was like up ahead. I suppose now I should pay more attention to my actual speed! (Or not - if all the traffic is moving at 60+ the worst thing one can do is be going 50.)


47 posted on 09/18/2017 3:51:09 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts FDR's New Deal = obama)
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To: RegulatorCountry
I've been through there when it got that bad and everyone was driving with their hazard lights on as that's the only way you could tell where the car in front of or behind you was, from the glow in the fog the hazards made.

It cleared up in an hour but dang, it seemed like six hours to me.

48 posted on 09/18/2017 4:25:09 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Balding_Eagle

I choose to not pay a fine for “violating” an unconstitutional “law”.


49 posted on 09/18/2017 4:33:28 PM PDT by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd [PBUH---Pigblood be upon him]; Charles Martel for President)
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To: Rashputin

It was unnerving. Afraid to move, afraid to stop. Couldn’t see a thing. Hearing but not seeing occasional crashes across the median on the eastbound lanes didn’t help.


50 posted on 09/18/2017 4:41:47 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Political Junkie Too
This scenario would actually be unconstitutional as an ex post facto law.

Read more carefully. The prohibition upon ex post facto laws appears twice in the United States Constitution. Article I, Section 9, Clause 3 prohibits Congress from passing any ex post facto law, 22 while Article I, Section 10, Clause 1 applies the same limit to the States. There is no prohibition applied to counties or cities in the Constitution. It would be up to the state to impose such a limit upon smaller entities within its borders.

51 posted on 09/18/2017 4:50:01 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: LibWhacker

One more reason to have a quality dash cam.


52 posted on 09/18/2017 4:58:00 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Alberta's Child

“The point is that these funds allow many states to construct transportation infrastructure that they wouldn’t be able to afford without it.”

That is patently false. If the monies were kept in their states (lowering federal taxes), state taxes could capture it and fund the projects. Instead we get the corruption of Congress that turns federal funding into pork barrel projects and as far as fuel taxes go many of the projects it funds often have zero zip nada to do with transportation.


53 posted on 09/18/2017 5:54:34 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Founding Father

In theory, neither do I.

I won’t have a choice, as you seem to.

Good for you.


54 posted on 09/18/2017 5:56:50 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: Alberta's Child

“There was quite a debate about the roles of the Federal and state governments in roads back then, and the Federal government won out simply because the establishment of a National Road from Baltimore to the Ohio River valley was one of the conditions under which Ohio was admitted to the Union.”

Yes the Balitmore and other east coast bankers wanted Congress to do what they could have raised the funds to do, as “opening Ohio” transportation-wise was intended to serve their eastern industrial interests. They most likely would have built their own toll roads to Ohio - floating bonds with tolls to pay for them. Getting Congress to do it added to their profits.


55 posted on 09/18/2017 5:59:37 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Alberta's Child

“Thomas Jefferson recognized that without road connections between the interior of North America to the cities and ports in the U.S. along the Atlantic seaboard, there was a serious danger that most of the continent would end up under the control of Great Britain.”

If that is what Jefferson said then he lied. How did Great Britain almost recapture the colonies in the War of 1812? Jefferson was a pacifist who had mothballed most of any U.S. Navy and further gutted the military. He had to be brow beaten in private and in public before going after the Barbary pirates with what fledgling navy we had. What was Great Britain depending on? Jefferson’s weakness.


56 posted on 09/18/2017 6:04:19 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Alberta's Child

“Thomas Jefferson recognized that without road connections between the interior of North America to the cities and ports in the U.S. along the Atlantic seaboard, there was a serious danger that most of the continent would end up under the control of Great Britain.”

If that is what Jefferson said then he lied. How did Great Britain almost recapture the colonies in the War of 1812? Jefferson was a pacifist who had mothballed 2/3rd of the U.S. Navy. Britain humiliated the U.S. in 1807 in the last year of Jefferson’s administration, setting the public outcry stage for his successor finally having no choice but to go to war in 1812 and repair the weakness that Jefferson the pacifist had created, for Britain to try to exploit.


57 posted on 09/18/2017 6:14:08 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Myrddin
But... the article says the "Feds" are " encouraging this," which makes it federal. Also, what if it is being implemented on the interstate highway system?

-PJ

58 posted on 09/18/2017 6:25:39 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: LibWhacker

They have variable speed limit signs on the top end of I-285 around ATL on which I travel to work. I have yet to see anyone pay any attention to them. I have not seen speed enforcement on that stretch of road over decades. It’s simply too dangerous and would cause an instant jam if it’s not jammed already.


59 posted on 09/18/2017 7:10:19 PM PDT by dmcnash (Back off! I'm a Scientist.)
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To: LibWhacker

bfl


60 posted on 09/18/2017 7:14:17 PM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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