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BULLSEYE!South Korea tests its new cruise missile that could wipe out Kim Jong-un from 300 miles ...
The Sun ^ | 13th September 2017 | Jenny Awford

Posted on 09/13/2017 8:18:16 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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1 posted on 09/13/2017 8:18:16 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Looks like a dud, just stuck in the roof./s
Of course the target is smaller than the fatboy so a noogie hit is possible.


2 posted on 09/13/2017 8:22:15 PM PDT by Waverunner (I'd like to welcome our new overlords, say hello to my little friend)
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To: Waverunner

Greg Gutfeld called him the dictator-tot.
I prefer juche-fruit.


3 posted on 09/13/2017 8:24:54 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Pic reveals engine still operating after impact (exhaust jet). Photo must have been taken later for test fire safety reasons. Given the distance to get to the target area to take the photo (safety radius), the engine must still have been running for a good while.
4 posted on 09/13/2017 8:25:13 PM PDT by EarthResearcher333
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Sned over a couple of our smart bombs.


5 posted on 09/13/2017 8:27:36 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Only their self-aggrandizement matters.)
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To: EarthResearcher333

Good eye.


6 posted on 09/13/2017 8:27:42 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: EarthResearcher333

It’s a still-frame from a very high-speed video camera. Of course it was still putting out thrust at that split-second. An instant later, nothing but little pieces left.


7 posted on 09/13/2017 8:36:23 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Charles Martel
You might want to re-read the article:

"The missile was fired without an explosive device for safety reasons."

8 posted on 09/13/2017 8:45:21 PM PDT by EarthResearcher333
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To: EarthResearcher333

Get the Sorks to take him out?


9 posted on 09/13/2017 8:46:47 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: EarthResearcher333

Yes, these tests are performed with dummy warheads. In the video, the missile zips right through that target and burrows clear out of sight in a flash. It’s like those US Naval cruise missile tests, fired at cargo container targets on a towed barge. At normal video speed, a big hole just appears in the steel Conex box. Slow down the target camera playback and you can see the missile strike.


10 posted on 09/13/2017 9:01:01 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: EarthResearcher333
The image does reveal a material cloud of debris in the upper surface of the target. So it is likely this photo was taken from a "light penetration" resistive shell at the target. The device most likely penetrated further to the bottom section of the target (and thus could have impaired the engine operation from the impact G-forces).

Strategically, this test and photograph poses a potentially new tactical problem for North Korea as they have been installing cruise missile barriers in anticipation of the typical cruise missile attacks to open targets - as observed by some typical U.S. Tomahawk Strikes. This vertical attitude (strike/photo) reveals that North Korea must anticipate all angles of attack (horizontal to vertical). IF they hadn't considered this, someone may be scrambling.

11 posted on 09/13/2017 9:02:49 PM PDT by EarthResearcher333
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To: Charles Martel

Was posting during your post. Thanks for the information.


12 posted on 09/13/2017 9:09:10 PM PDT by EarthResearcher333
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Hey North Korea... There’s a hole in your Kim!


13 posted on 09/13/2017 9:13:00 PM PDT by BigEdLB (To Dimwitocrats: We won. You lost. Get used to it.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
More information:

North Korea building walls in preparation for cruise missile attack

-- clips:

"Specifically, North Korea’s military is said to be replacing gallery strongholds made of stone, due to their propensity to break into pieces when struck by missiles, resulting in additional casualties. Instead, they will be rebuilt with gunnysacks—burlap sacks filled with earth or sand."

. . .

“North Korea seems to be very aware of the U.S. attack on Syria, it quoted Jiro Ishimaru, editor for North Korean magazine Rimjingang as saying, according to South Korea’s Yonhap News Agency. He added that North Korea was making "preparations against cruise missiles.”

- - end clips

14 posted on 09/13/2017 9:26:12 PM PDT by EarthResearcher333
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It doesn’t need an explosive charge to end up in pieces. Kinetic energy alone would do the job, plus any remaining fuel. (The engine IS still on at the instant of impact.)

A bunker busting bomb* would stay largely intact at impact, but I believe the back end of a conventional cruise missile travelling at 700+ mph would “crumple” or break up as impact occurred, if that impact is sudden enough to stop the missile abruptly. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

*(Bunker busters are essentially long, relatively small diameter tubes made of dense, rigid material, with depleted uranium being best.)

Anyway, the video at the article link lays any doubt in this case to rest. :-)


15 posted on 09/13/2017 10:31:50 PM PDT by Paul R. (I don't want to be energy free, we want to be energy dominant in terms of the world. -D. Trump)
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To: EarthResearcher333

Those had better be (for the Nork soldiers’ sake) pretty thick walls. We now have a variety of weapons, including specialized cruise missiles, that can penetrate a long way into soil or sand.

There is also the old (WW2) British concept of, instead of penetrating the target, penetrate deeply just to the side of it, blasting a void into which the target collapses.

Web searches will turn up plenty of reading material. :-)


16 posted on 09/13/2017 10:42:12 PM PDT by Paul R. (I don't want to be energy free, we want to be energy dominant in terms of the world. -D. Trump)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Under current rules, Washington state is prevented from planning an emergency response to a nuclear attack.

It's a throwback to the Cold War, when it was feared that planning for a nuclear strike might suggest the US was preparing to launch one itself and expected a response.

I wonder how many U.S. states have this sort of policy?

17 posted on 09/13/2017 10:46:40 PM PDT by Paul R. (I don't want to be energy free, we want to be energy dominant in terms of the world. -D. Trump)
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To: Paul R.
Thanks for your feedback. Post 11 covers the impact discussion.

I am familiar with the sophisticated targeting systems on current advanced cruise missiles. The earliest version of the prototypes that led to the Tomahawk used computer systems from a division where I worked along with the engineers that designed it.

Having access to the dense shrapnel metal & have performed residual radiation tests to analyze the compounds used. Depleted Uranium (DU) has an alpha particle signature - to which identification of the use of what type(s) of warhead metals are revealed.

I am also aware of the penetrating sophistication of advanced cruise missiles. They have abilities that you touch upon - but I will stop at that.

The main point of bringing up the tactical missile mitigation issue by North Korea (in seeking to mitigate a cruise missile threat by building "walls") gives insight into their current state of protection "thinking" and their reported selected "next steps" to try to improve this protection.

The first key revelation is that they had dangerous "stone" walls that had to be dismantled as they figured out (recently) that rock proliferates the shrapnel scatter envelope from a "detonation shock wave".

The second key revelation is that "walls" were specifically ordered to be built in their upgrade away from "stone" to using sand or earth filled sacks.

For those "in the know" about what they could face (attack), NKorea is revealing their naivete* - will leave it at that.

*Given their sudden "stone" wall replacement effort (with the well known shrapnel scatter envelope of the rock), with another effort that is slightly improved but still falls short, the public image of this vertical strike landing trajectory missile, when applied to the demonstrated naivete of the first two revelations, likely will cause yet another round of concerns for North Korea that their tactical approaches are not well thought through.

Thus there is a potential psychological effect in the ramifications of leaders making poor decisions - besides the effect on the leaders when they discover they fell short in their mitigation efforts.

This was the main issue (vertical hit) that caught my attention on the photograph (all of the above) - that North Korea may be scrambling yet again because of yet another mis-calculation.

Thus this has a positive effect for South Korea in revealing this testing (and photo/videos) due to NKorea's prior mitigation tactical thinking (less than stellar).

18 posted on 09/14/2017 12:11:52 AM PDT by EarthResearcher333
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Well they do know how to make great cars. Fat Boy should be worried.


19 posted on 09/14/2017 12:54:30 AM PDT by McGruff (2017 or 1984?)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
He does like to watch.

No need for a bunker buster.

20 posted on 09/14/2017 1:00:00 AM PDT by McGruff (2017 or 1984?)
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