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Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
The New York Post ^ | September 10, 2017 | The Editorial Board

Posted on 09/10/2017 8:57:17 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

With Florida taking a horrific pounding from Irma so soon after Harvey’s flooding farther west, it’s now plain that President Trump was right to take that deal with Democratic leaders Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi last week.

By agreeing to kick the can on the debt-limit and spending battles three months down the road, Trump avoided having Washington locked in another inside-baseball battle when so many Americans are suffering.

Maybe the president could’ve been nicer to GOP leaders Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan while taking the Dem offer. But the grim truth is that the Republicans’ elaborate strategizing has failed utterly so far this year.

It’s September, and ObamaCare remains unrepealed, unreplaced and unfixed. Any kind of tax reform or tax cut is now dicey, and even funding the government through the end of the next fiscal year is almost certainly going to require another one of those ginormous, swamp-feeding omnibus bills.

We doubt there are many future deals to be had with the Democrats, but Ryan and McConnell were going to have to swing one on the debt limit eventually: Dozens of House members in the Freedom Caucus won’t budge on their demands for spending cuts in exchange for raising the limit, but those demands won’t pass in the Senate.

Ryan wanted to push for a longer extension of the limit in the deal, but there’s zero certainty he’d have gotten it. And it’s entirely possible that Schumer and Pelosi would’ve increased their demands as time went on.

And, again, a standoff would have left Trump and the GOP Congress looking utterly self-absorbed in face of what will now be hundreds of billions of dollars in damage from Harvey and Irma, on top of all the lives lost and disrupted....

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: congress; crcrcr; debt; democrats; hurricanes; irma; trump
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1 posted on 09/10/2017 8:57:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It says a lot about the GOP when Trump can get more done (a lot more CONSERVATIVE stuff done even) by working with the flipping crazy Democrats than with members of his own party.


2 posted on 09/10/2017 8:59:49 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: Luircin

stoopid Paul Ryan


3 posted on 09/10/2017 9:03:04 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have aklways been cowboys)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is Irma as bad as it was predicted to be?


4 posted on 09/10/2017 9:04:44 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Maybe the president could’ve been nicer to GOP leaders Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan while taking the Dem offer. But the grim truth is that the Republicans’ elaborate strategizing has failed utterly so far this year.”

Yeah, but the “uncomfortable look” on McConnell’s face as he sat there next to “Beavis” Schumer in the meeting with Trump was priceless. He looked like he’d just been forced to hoover a turd.


5 posted on 09/10/2017 9:08:25 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You don’t have to swing hard to hit a homerun.
If you got the timing, it’ll go.
Yogi Berra


6 posted on 09/10/2017 9:25:31 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: vette6387

LoL!

Great description of the look on McConnell’s face.

If the GOPee doesn’t straighten up maybe Trump should run as a dem in 2020...he could also bring the dem party back toward a semblance of sanity.

IMO the last dem president that was anywhere near normal was JFK.


7 posted on 09/10/2017 9:26:53 PM PDT by Bobalu (Don't give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses, yearning to be freeloaders.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump’s actions make him look reasonable and compassionate. His enemies attacking him as “literally Hitler” will take a huge blow. Expect the Democrats to attempt to “work” with the President and cool off the constant attacks.


8 posted on 09/10/2017 9:31:07 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: BenLurkin

It’s pretty close to what actual meteorologists predicted. Overall though, it’s still an ongoing event, so time will tell.


9 posted on 09/10/2017 9:47:59 PM PDT by DrGunsforHands
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To: BenLurkin
Is Irma as bad as it was predicted to be?
Why don't you ask the victims of Irma after tomorrow if they're happy with the results?
10 posted on 09/10/2017 11:23:54 PM PDT by lewislynn ( Transgender: A person who thinks s/he's wrong side out.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Getting rid of rhe debt ceiling Isindeed compassion.. blank checks for every dem program.. meanwhile, we have no wall funds and he’s going to make congress act on daca.. they will get amnesty, now that there is no debt ceiling holding them back.
No more purse strings holding back Pelosi n shumer.. just get ready to pay up, taxpayers.


11 posted on 09/10/2017 11:26:12 PM PDT by momincombatboots (White Stetsons up.. let's save our country!)
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Maybe the president could’ve been nicer to GOP leaders Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan while taking the Dem offer
Why should he be the nice one after the arrogant bastards publicly bad-mouth, ridicule and lie to him...with a snear?

They can (and should) rot in hell.

12 posted on 09/10/2017 11:28:38 PM PDT by lewislynn ( Transgender: A person who thinks s/he's wrong side out.)
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To: momincombatboots

A “blank check” for 3 months instead of the 18 months the RINOs wanted that would have covered them through the next round of elections? Trump made the right deal.


13 posted on 09/10/2017 11:36:00 PM PDT by Moonmad27
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A “clean” relief bill with offsetting budget cuts was impossible?!? Barring that a debt ceiling increase of exactly $15 billion and no more was impossible? Mr. Trump is the leader of the Republican party with majorities in both houses, pick off a few “blue dog” Dems if you must, but it is too early to give up and deal with the devil(s).


14 posted on 09/11/2017 12:00:06 AM PDT by Drago
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Screw McConnell, Ryan and the rest of their team. For 8 months they’ve had a golden opportunity to call the shots and have produced zero, nil, nada, bupkus.

I hope the slap in the face gets them off their duffs, but not holding my breath. As much as we all despise Pelosi, Reid etc they were able to keep their caucus united and get the job done for Obama. If GOP can’t do it then fire them then they are worthless and deserve to be fired in 2018.

I do find it amusing that Dems are now threatening to shut down govt in December unless Dreamer Act is passed. Sounds like a win-win to me and hopefully Trump will see it that way. Nobody will mind shut down after hurricane season is over.


15 posted on 09/11/2017 12:02:08 AM PDT by KingofZion
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“A “clean” relief bill with offsetting budget cuts was impossible?!? “

Yes, because all of the NeverTrumps Republicans in Congress are busy continually plotting to stall anything Trump wants, to kill any program Trump needs, and basically do anything they can to obstruct Trump or make him look bad. Basically acting like Democrat Lite.

The problem is, if you’re going to act like Democrat Lite, there’s no good reason to not actually just cut that crap out and go deal with the actual Dems. At least they don’t claim to be Trump’s allies then stab him in the back repeatedly. And there’s always some liberal Republicans that can be picked off on many issues.


16 posted on 09/11/2017 2:51:02 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ryan was going to try to bollix things up to hurt Trump’s image. Trump sidestepped.


17 posted on 09/11/2017 3:53:39 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Will Florida be a safe state for Trump in 2030?

;-)


18 posted on 09/11/2017 4:09:00 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Anitfa = Anti-F.A. = Anti-First Amendment)
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To: Luircin

I very much suspect that Trump’s ego
prevents him from understanding the
fact that much of his “support” is
really not that so much as LOATHING
for all things on the left, including
their cheerleaders. That’s where I
stand. If I see him getting into bed
with those assholes, I’m out of his
camp because I firmly believe that
everything the left supports is bad
for America.


19 posted on 09/11/2017 4:19:50 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed)
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To: momincombatboots

A complete surrender to the left and once again the worst outcome for taxpayer citizens.


20 posted on 09/11/2017 4:21:14 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed)
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