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Hurricane Irma Live Thread Part IV
NHC/NOAA ^ | 9/10/2017 | NHC/NOAA

Posted on 09/10/2017 2:02:02 PM PDT by NautiNurse

The entire Florida Peninsula has begun to experience Hurricane Irma following landfall at Marco Island. Thousands of Floridians who evacuated the Atlantic cost to Gulf Coast areas found their safe shelter under direct threat from Hurricane Irma as the forecast shifted W Friday night and Saturday. Prayers for all in the storm path.


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NHC Local Weather Statements/Radar Key West, FL
NHC Local Weather Statements/Radar Tampa Bay, FL
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NHC Local Weather Statements/Radar Miami, FL
NHC Local Weather Statements/Radar Melbourne, FL
NOAA Local Weather Statements/Radar Jacksonville, FL
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NHC Local Weather Statements/Radar Morehead City, FL
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Hurricane Irma Live Thread I
Hurricane Irma Live Thread II
Hurricane Irma Live Thread III


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Florida; US: Georgia; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: braking; florida; hurricane; hurricaneirma; irma; livehurricaneirma
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To: RegulatorCountry

its true..some do want the worst outcome, though they wont admit it. I called on the 7th at least that this storm would landfall as a Cat 3. A few of us were cheering it on to Cuba, you’d have thought we committed a murder...hysterical posting of graphs showing 160 m.p.h. winds in Ft Lauderdale..rantings that “no way will Cuba have any effect”...wild screams about “BATHWATER”..this was all hyped about what a storm did 1000 miles earlier, and people fall for it all the time. These larger storms always interact with land and fall apart, seen it happen over and over. But, you are right...some were literally enraged that the storm weakened..some of us just got it right after all....


1,061 posted on 09/12/2017 12:58:57 AM PDT by basalt (.)
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To: basalt

Guess I’m a “down-caster,” guilty as charged. I wanted the storm to weaken or break up to help the people and innocent animals in Florida, shame on me. Glad it did, not to be “right” but because the damage was far less severe than it would have been, had the official forecasts held up.


1,062 posted on 09/12/2017 1:03:20 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Third request—Last time people walked in an empty Tampa Bay before Irma? Pretty please? Did I mention my power has been out since Irma came by?


1,063 posted on 09/12/2017 1:51:23 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Tear down the Mexican Carrier plant and use the materials to build the wall)
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To: NautiNurse

The hurricane just came through there, what, a day ago, so a little patience might be in order as far as your electric service being restored. I know it’s uncomfortable and inconvenient to lose power.

Regarding the unusually low tide ahead of the storm in Tampa Bay, I see no accounts of this having occurred in the past. I see that the historic 1848 and 1921 storms had very noteworthy storm surge, however I don’t believe the storm surge from Irma could be described as such.

So, after having asked about this three times now, I have to assume that you attach some great significance to this as to severity, so you could save a little time in just laying it out, could you please?

Me, as I’ve replied several times, I see it as having actually been a good thing, since surge in Tampa Bay was not nearly the problem originally feared.


1,064 posted on 09/12/2017 2:12:00 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: basalt

As a casual storm watcher I was struck by how fast Irma lost power when it came onshore. Fascinating.


1,065 posted on 09/12/2017 2:30:05 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Not my circus. Not my monkeys.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

when the storm interacted with Cuba, the inner structure was changed. Hurricanes are “custom” storms..each one unique. Scientist know very little about the inner structure of hurricanes. That night, the discussion at the NHC was that Cuba would have little or no effect on Irma..however, it never re intensified and they later on seemed puzzled by this. It was literally a “different “ storm ....


1,066 posted on 09/12/2017 2:37:04 AM PDT by basalt (.)
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To: basalt

I noticed the change that day also; just from a few images on tv and FR. It was clear to me that the nature of the eye had changed.


1,067 posted on 09/12/2017 3:12:51 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Not my circus. Not my monkeys.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Keep digging—there are indeed reports of people walking in the Tampa Bay. What is storm surge? Does Tampa Bay empty during low tide every year? Why are you saying I am impatient about power restoration? I am changing and recharging battery packs at this hour. Will be emptying contents of refrigerator at daylight and more yard cleanup. You are great for minimizing our circumstances here. What are you doing other than tossing out useless info?


1,068 posted on 09/12/2017 3:19:01 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Tear down the Mexican Carrier plant and use the materials to build the wall)
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To: NautiNurse

You reminded me that you were still without power, I pointed out that the storm just moved out yesterday. Seems a pretty linear and logical response to me.

Regarding the unusually low tide in Tampa Bay, I see it as having been a positive thing that minimized damage there.

I’m sure you’ll correct me if I’m mistaken, but you seem to take issue with that characterization, so no need for me to dig, when you can just lay it out since you have your information at hand.

Keep in mind, we’ve had a flyover at 2,000 ft to inspect the damage down in the Keys. Battered but intact I believe was the description from your governor, or maybe it was a senator.

In other words, this was in no way comparable to the Islamorada Labor Day hurricane.

Well, maybe the predicted track was somewhat similar. Is that why everyone panicked and went off the rails when the storm was clearly disorganized and slowed due to grazing Cuba?

That sounds rather superstitious, to be quite honest.


1,069 posted on 09/12/2017 3:29:13 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: basalt

Excellent analysis! Also—that Irma made landfall further south, moving just slightly east of predictions on the FL pennsula changed all sorts of potential impacts. Fyi—we received robo call that morning warning of 15ft surge if Irma made landfall near the mouth of Tampa Bay. Some scary watch and wait hours followed that possibility.


1,070 posted on 09/12/2017 3:46:34 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Tear down the Mexican Carrier plant and use the materials to build the wall)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Why are you comparing this storm to other storms, ad nauseum? No two hurricanes are alike—ever. Again, you are exposing your obsessive need to babble, rather than to research and offer up one iota of useful info. You are wasting my battery power by cluttering up this thread. Please stop.


1,071 posted on 09/12/2017 3:54:54 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Tear down the Mexican Carrier plant and use the materials to build the wall)
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To: NautiNurse

Please control the personal attacks, your own stated desire for this thread is for it to be informational. You’re the one who keeps asking for historical examples of Tampa Bay being largely emptied of water due to an unusually low tide, so if you can manage to be civil maybe you can introduce this information to the thread and not be exposed to my “babble, ad nauseam” as you so sweetly put it.


1,072 posted on 09/12/2017 3:57:51 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: SE Mom; kristinn

Found a McD open this morning! Hot breakfast, hot coffee—life is good! It’s going up to high 80’s today...


1,073 posted on 09/12/2017 5:26:48 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Tear down the Mexican Carrier plant and use the materials to build the wall)
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To: SE Mom

yep - thanks for asking


1,074 posted on 09/12/2017 5:48:52 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen
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To: NautiNurse
Found a McD open this morning! Hot breakfast, hot coffee—life is good! .

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ A relative of mine is in the Lakeland area - no power, shingles off house, trees down, fence destroyed, but otherwise okay. She said there is a Denny's just down the street with a generator & she thinks that will be a very good thing in the coming days. My guess is she'll end up knowing the menu rather well! She's an elderly widow with a heart condition & lives alone so it was really good to hear from her

Just saw this article - it's pretty good, actually with some pictures to go with it. When you see just how close ... but for 'this' or 'that', Irma came to inflicting 'worse case' on FL, well .... personally, I think prayers were answered.

Why Hurricane Irma wasn’t far worse, and how close it came to catastrophe

1,075 posted on 09/12/2017 5:52:56 AM PDT by Qiviut (Obama's Legacy in two words: DONALD TRUMP)
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To: NautiNurse

Quick Update — FEMA convoys of 100-200 Semis are leaving Maxwell AFB here in Montgomery this morning and heading that way. over 800 trucks of Supplies and accompanying personnel were pre-positioned here last week and have just been waiting for the order to roll. All the convoys will have police escorts all the way to their Florida destinations.


1,076 posted on 09/12/2017 5:55:32 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes Sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it!)
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To: Publius

Hi there, we are without power and if you leave or try to get back into Glynn County the guards will not let you back in. I am waiting over on the mainland, Brunswick, to get back over to my island residence — afraid it’s going to be a long wait. Check out “ The Brunswick News. Com “ they were posting photos yesterday. I am getting very little news only my version iPad is working without regular wifi and it is slow. Thanks.


1,077 posted on 09/12/2017 5:55:44 AM PDT by nightmarewhileawake
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To: Bodleian_Girl

It’s better in spots than some expected and it’s worse in spots than some expected.

I’m sure the people on those Caribbean Islands didn’t think it was a big nothing burger.


1,078 posted on 09/12/2017 6:31:31 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: The Westerner; dirtboy

It’s pretty sad that some people consider it nothing significant unless the whole state looks like ground zero for Hurricane Andrew.

Then they might condescend that it was good to warn people.

They’d probably still accuse others of over hyping it, too.


1,079 posted on 09/12/2017 6:35:00 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: basalt
Joe Bastardi‏Verified account @BigJoeBastardi 44m44 minutes ago Think of Harvey. If it was 50 miles further south in Mexico, may never have gotten into the gulf strong enough to explode 0 replies 0 retweets 10 likes

Joe Bastardi‏Verified account @BigJoeBastardi 36m36 minutes ago

Joe Bastardi‏Verified account @BigJoeBastardi 7h7 hours ago Brush with Cuba stopped and reversed intensification for a while and was huge factor,along with track paralleling coast before 2cnd landfall 4 replies 6 retweets 22 likes 50 miles saved Florida 50 billion. Think about it, no Cuba, storm doesnt weaken but continues to intensify. Very high stakes risk 3 replies 8 retweets 33 likes

Joe Bastardi Retweeted Steve Goddard‏ @SteveSGoddard Sep 10 Steve Goddard Retweeted Michael Ian Black Three of the ten deadliest Atlantic hurricanes occurred during the Revolutionary War. Democrats don't believe in history or science.

Joe Bastardi‏Verified account @BigJoeBastardi 50m50 minutes ago 1935 beast in keys but weakened further north paralleling coast, Donna turned in quickly, no Cuba.Charley Cuba but hit from SSW not parallel

https://twitter.com/BigJoeBastardi

1,080 posted on 09/12/2017 7:01:56 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + folllow Him)
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