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To: Kaslin

In the rural SE GA areas for the age groups around 18-40 we still see about an equal amount of methamphetamine and THC addiction, most. Next comes an equal amount of benzodiazepines and opiates, then cocaine, and then random exotics like mdma and synthetic pot. Heroin is not on the list. At this time.

In this area, the major opiate abusers are 80% women in their late-20s and 30s, but this “opioid epidemic” focus that the government is pushing ignores this area’s actual problems, outlined above, and I fear we are going to see incredible amounts of focus and money going to an issue that is no worse than ones we have already been working on (with very little focus or money).

ie, another ham fisted and poorly focused campaign pushed by the Fed govt which will misdirect time, money, and attention from equal or worse issues.

AIDs was an issue of a disease that affected homosexuals by massive margins, But because of PC the govt/CDC refused to be honest and more people died than should have (continues to this day). I see similar issues with this opioid focus and the information and “cure” being pushed by the govt.

I’m already getting casual social questions about “our opioid epidemic.” No, we have a family unit break down epidemic. We have a fatherless generation epidemic. We have a “Church is bad/boring/pointless” epidemic. And we have a society that has become immoral and immature.

Fix ^ that and the drug problem goes away. Personal opinion.


13 posted on 09/10/2017 5:17:30 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: Noamie

“I’m already getting casual social questions about “our opioid epidemic.” No, we have a family unit break down epidemic. We have a fatherless generation epidemic. We have a “Church is bad/boring/pointless” epidemic. And we have a society that has become immoral and immature.

Fix ^ that and the drug problem goes away. Personal opinion.”

100% correct


15 posted on 09/10/2017 5:26:42 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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To: Noamie
Amen to that. I had a long conversation with a Singaporean once while waiting to catch my plane home (Japan, at the time). He told me that at the time of Singapore's independence, one out of every ten of them was addicted to opioids and were branching off into heroin and worse. The founders of the new state decided that something drastic has to be done and it was.

Today, one out of every ten Singaporeans is a millionaire. About 200 drug dealers meet their date with the hangman annually, a fraction of the drug fueled murder rate in any similar sized city in the United States. Addicts who repeatedly refuse help and rehab are exiled to one of the small islands off Singapore where a supply boats backs up a couple of times a month to drop off food supplies. They can apply to get back into mainstream society. Only a handful bother to so do.

Portugal goes the other extreme by registering the addicts and allowing them to live their useless life by providing the drugs at cost. There was neither the explosion in addicts nor crime that was predicted when they instituted this system a decade or so ago. In fact, crime rate plummeted.

There is a lesson here in either extreme, both of which work better than the method we are using.

20 posted on 09/10/2017 6:08:54 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: Noamie

we have a family unit break down epidemic.

I would agree and believe this is the real problem.

for the record, I had a real bad motorcycle accident in 1979, Major Road rash that required a lot of skin grafting. Atthe time the Doctors had a choice of putting me in a Medical Coma for 3 months or give me all the Percodan i could eat. We chose the Percodan. Without the Opiates I would go in to Shock immediately and hit the Ground from the Pain and be OUT LIKE A LIGHT!!!

I started out taking 1 pill every 3-4 hours, by the end of 11 weeks, I was taking 4 pills every Hour just to survive.

Finally after my body recovered enough, I had Major Skin Grafting done and ALL THE PAIN was Gone, But I was Fully Addicted to Opiates. I spent then next 2 weeks in the Hospital going through Withdrawls.

All of this was done Intentionally and we ALL knew the consequences, but there was NO CHOICE! I almost Never take any type of pain pill as a result unless absolutely necessary, but I will absolutely take the opiates if the need ever arises again. I hope it doesn’t but I know the consequences and will do what is necessary.

If we are really going to BAN Opiates, I propose we start with denying ALL PUBLIC SERVANTS, Or ANY EX PUBLIC SERVANT, ALL OPIATES, Let them Suffer first and tell us how they like it.


21 posted on 09/10/2017 6:16:21 AM PDT by eyeamok (Idle hands are the Devil's workshop)
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To: Noamie
And we have a society that has become immoral and immature.

I think that's the main one. I have a beer or two or a mixed drink when offered like many people might. But I know this is not a healthy social habit and I avoid those people. On my own I will have one beer for no particularly good or bad reason. But that's it. I was socially alcoholic and come from a line of alcoholics.

The young these days are learning that pot is ok even in my state where it is illegal. Acceptance of alcohol abuse just adds to the acceptance of drugs. Pot is not a "gateway" drug, but look at any young abuser and I will bet they used pot early on. They didn't go on crack or meth or opioids from nothing. That includes some that I know with functional families.

49 posted on 09/10/2017 10:53:20 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: Noamie

Any wonder God is ripping us up with His mother nature? I really don’t blame Him.


72 posted on 09/11/2017 3:09:22 PM PDT by RacerX1128 (Cornered in CA)
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To: Noamie

An excellent post. Thank you.


87 posted on 09/11/2017 6:53:00 PM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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