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America’s Crisis with Opioids
Townhall.com ^ | September 10, 2017 | Bruce Bialosky

Posted on 09/10/2017 2:34:17 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 09/10/2017 2:34:17 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I would add a footnote here. You can travel into a fairly rural county in the south, with 100,000 residents, and find that between Opioids and Heroin...at least a thousand residents use one or both, and you could easily bump into one of these people every single day. Some got on the binge because of football or work-place injuries, and found that it was the only way to control the pain. Some found drifting over to Heroin was pretty easy with the Opioid usage.

I have a relative who up and disappeared six months ago for three days. Missing persons report turned in...cops searching...major effort of one single family and community. Then the young gal just turns up and acts like nothing occurred over the past seventy-two hours. It’s obvious that she was on some drug episode, but won’t admit to anything. Cops just accept it. The family never digs into it. You see this as a common theme now...disappearances are becoming an acceptable form of lifestyle while on some binge.


2 posted on 09/10/2017 2:50:21 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Kaslin

On this topic I think that the city of Highland, Utah ought to fire their City Attorney Tim Merrill and bar his law firm from any more business with them. I would be happy to publicly debate anyone on this topic and have all the evidence and issues involved on this brought forward with complete honesty.


3 posted on 09/10/2017 3:16:52 AM PDT by Degaston
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To: pepsionice

>>Some got on the binge because of football or work-place injuries, and found that it was the only way to control the pain.

So, while we are doing our hand-wringing over this crisis, how do we help these people who have legitimate pain? Do we insist that they take liver and kidney destroying levels of NSAIDS just so we can feel good about how they die? Do we make them suffer until they become a suicide statistic?

These articles on opioids never address that. They just demonize the doctors and the victims.


4 posted on 09/10/2017 3:19:26 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: pepsionice

And all too often the disappearances end up as dead bodies

The number of really young people addicted is heart breaking


5 posted on 09/10/2017 3:20:48 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: pepsionice

My brother is a high level security cleared employee of a very big aerospace company having worked for the company for nearly 30 years. During the last 15 of those years, my very well off brother took 10-12 Norcos a day (vicodin). He is still working and still with his habit daily. His liver will eventually fall out and that won’t stop him.

The sad thing is, he recognizes he does have a problem and doesn’t have the strength to do anything about it.

The tragedy?....there are probably at least 500 vicodin clones of my brother in the same company. Probably more.

signed...vicodin addict’s brother....a recovered alcoholic....6 years sober on 9-21-17......me


6 posted on 09/10/2017 3:22:25 AM PDT by RacerX1128 (Cornered in CA)
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To: RacerX1128

He began his addiction with the stroke of the pen of his doctor who replaced his knee. The Dr. still refills his prescription 15 years later.

Problem?

Oh yeah, big, big, sleeping giant of a problem. Why is it just being talked about now. Anything due to the fact that the medical and pharmaceutical industries make billions off the stuff?

They are producing medicine to kill you and then making the medicine to prevent your death.

Anything at all wrong with this picture.

Probably won’t get any comments, as usual. People typing and moving on. Dinner as usual. eh?

What did I do about it?

I got sober.


7 posted on 09/10/2017 3:27:14 AM PDT by RacerX1128 (Cornered in CA)
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To: Kaslin

Firebombing the poppy fields in Afghanistan will go a long way toward putting the CIA out of business.
When the supply dissipates, then we can address the addicted.


8 posted on 09/10/2017 3:59:48 AM PDT by mindburglar (I'm sorry, can you spell that?)
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To: RacerX1128

I have osteoarthritis in both feet the right knee and hip and lower back.

I can understand the need for someone to get pain relief.

I stay away from the opiods and limit the regular pain killers. Some days I just accept that I am going to hurt when I take a step. But, I am retired and can do that.


9 posted on 09/10/2017 4:19:24 AM PDT by Fai Mao (I still want to see The PIAPS in prison)
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To: Fai Mao
I have osteoarthritis in both feet the right knee and hip and lower back.

We could be twins. I have it in both feet, both knees, my left hip, lower back and neck.

I don't take a single opioid or nsaid. I try and keep things moving as best I can, work on my diet and have been using natural approaches to controlling inflammation.

I also have Ankylosing Spondylitis that I have to manage and that makes things pretty tough.

I'm 55. I'm thinking I probably don't have but maybe another 10 years or so left in this body and this is all temporary anyway. :-)

10 posted on 09/10/2017 4:44:57 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Bryanw92

From what I gather, that might be happening - the pendulum might be swinging back too far. Also, as I understand, the problem now is with drugs like fentanyl, and less with prescription medications.

https://www.aei.org/publication/some-people-still-need-opioids/


11 posted on 09/10/2017 5:11:30 AM PDT by PlateOfShrimp
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To: pepsionice

I would suspect crack or meth usually mixed with opiods.


12 posted on 09/10/2017 5:15:20 AM PDT by pas
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To: Kaslin

In the rural SE GA areas for the age groups around 18-40 we still see about an equal amount of methamphetamine and THC addiction, most. Next comes an equal amount of benzodiazepines and opiates, then cocaine, and then random exotics like mdma and synthetic pot. Heroin is not on the list. At this time.

In this area, the major opiate abusers are 80% women in their late-20s and 30s, but this “opioid epidemic” focus that the government is pushing ignores this area’s actual problems, outlined above, and I fear we are going to see incredible amounts of focus and money going to an issue that is no worse than ones we have already been working on (with very little focus or money).

ie, another ham fisted and poorly focused campaign pushed by the Fed govt which will misdirect time, money, and attention from equal or worse issues.

AIDs was an issue of a disease that affected homosexuals by massive margins, But because of PC the govt/CDC refused to be honest and more people died than should have (continues to this day). I see similar issues with this opioid focus and the information and “cure” being pushed by the govt.

I’m already getting casual social questions about “our opioid epidemic.” No, we have a family unit break down epidemic. We have a fatherless generation epidemic. We have a “Church is bad/boring/pointless” epidemic. And we have a society that has become immoral and immature.

Fix ^ that and the drug problem goes away. Personal opinion.


13 posted on 09/10/2017 5:17:30 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: RacerX1128

7-7-’81. for me.


14 posted on 09/10/2017 5:22:40 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.)
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To: Noamie

“I’m already getting casual social questions about “our opioid epidemic.” No, we have a family unit break down epidemic. We have a fatherless generation epidemic. We have a “Church is bad/boring/pointless” epidemic. And we have a society that has become immoral and immature.

Fix ^ that and the drug problem goes away. Personal opinion.”

100% correct


15 posted on 09/10/2017 5:26:42 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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To: pas
I would suspect crack or meth usually mixed with opiods.

Dealers cut heroin with fentanyl or its vastly more potent analog, carfentanil. People go to heroin because it is cheaper than prescription opioids. Fentanyl and carfentanil are cheaper yet, because they can be made in garage labs, and the recipes are highly available. There is also a tendency to go for more and more potent stuff because addicts build up a tolerance for the weaker stuff.

And whenever there is a report that a batch of opioids is causing a higher than usual number of deaths from overdose, that is like an advertisement to addicts. They hear that and think, it must be some good stuff. And they seek it out.

16 posted on 09/10/2017 5:50:44 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Kaslin

Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their drugs, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

Rev. 9-21.


17 posted on 09/10/2017 5:54:11 AM PDT by Original Lurker
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To: Kaslin
Just like everything else the gubbamint gets it's hands on, this has been pumped up into a faux “crisis”. Is there an addiction problem...yea, I think so. Is it as wide spread as the gubbamint sayz...no.

What's happening is folks who truly need these medications are finding it more difficult to obtain them. Then, they go to the streets. Chronic pain will leave a once strong, healthy man into a whimpering ball. It robs folks of a quality life, always focused on the pain.

My dad and F-n-law both elderly, both have conditions that causes severe pain. More often than not, they'll spend their dayz trying to make it, often times crabby, bad mood, lethargic and immobile to a large degree.

Given their pain meds, they are completely opposite of this. The medication does not eliminate the pain, but takes the sharp edge off of it. They can then focus, move and enjoy life. Many people have the notion these meds cause folks to be sloppy fools, slurring their speech with needles hanging out their arms. Leave it to the gubbamint to create a “crisis”.

If the federal government were TRULY concerned about opioid addiction, they'd have sealed that border along Messy-co decades ago.

Some war on drugs.

18 posted on 09/10/2017 5:54:46 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: mindburglar
Firebombing the poppy fields in Afghanistan will go a long way toward putting the CIA out of business.

Heroin also comes from Mexico, South America, and South Asia. And much of it just pours across our still-unsecured border. If you live along the I95 corridor, you're along a major drug trafficking route.

That border wall needs to be built ASAP, and not just to impede illegal infiltration. The wall will also impede drug and human trafficking.

19 posted on 09/10/2017 5:55:01 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Noamie
Amen to that. I had a long conversation with a Singaporean once while waiting to catch my plane home (Japan, at the time). He told me that at the time of Singapore's independence, one out of every ten of them was addicted to opioids and were branching off into heroin and worse. The founders of the new state decided that something drastic has to be done and it was.

Today, one out of every ten Singaporeans is a millionaire. About 200 drug dealers meet their date with the hangman annually, a fraction of the drug fueled murder rate in any similar sized city in the United States. Addicts who repeatedly refuse help and rehab are exiled to one of the small islands off Singapore where a supply boats backs up a couple of times a month to drop off food supplies. They can apply to get back into mainstream society. Only a handful bother to so do.

Portugal goes the other extreme by registering the addicts and allowing them to live their useless life by providing the drugs at cost. There was neither the explosion in addicts nor crime that was predicted when they instituted this system a decade or so ago. In fact, crime rate plummeted.

There is a lesson here in either extreme, both of which work better than the method we are using.

20 posted on 09/10/2017 6:08:54 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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