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Trump overrules GOP with deal on spending, debt, Harvey aid
abc ^ | Sep 7, 2017, 12:30 AM ET | Erica Werner

Posted on 09/07/2017 8:03:57 AM PDT by Red Steel

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To: xzins

I cant stand Ryan but I don’t think what you say is true.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/house-approves-8-billion-harvey-aid-package/article/2633534


101 posted on 09/07/2017 10:13:33 AM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: Red Steel

Nope, I am a very very conservative person with few exceptions.

I do not approve of amnesty. I am asking if you do.


102 posted on 09/07/2017 10:14:25 AM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: RummyChick

“So you support signing an amnesty bill when passed?”

Nice strawman! You should be on CNN or PMSNBC!

IF there is a amnesty bill passed I will want to read the fine print before I answer that question. In general I do not support amnesty for illegal aliens.

Do I believe there will be a veto-proof amnesty bill passed? Nope. In fact, I doubt such a bill ever comes up for a vote in the Senate.

Also, unlike you & your ilk, I support President Trump because IMO he’s doing an incredible job while all of the media & the DC Swamp, including his own party & folks such as yourself work against him. I expect President Trump will continue to drive you & the RATs crazier than ya are already for the next 7+ years. :)


103 posted on 09/07/2017 10:15:46 AM PDT by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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To: RummyChick

Oh and I think it is RIDICULOUS to work with Dems just to say FU to republicans...because DEMS aren’t looking out for us AT ALL


104 posted on 09/07/2017 10:16:02 AM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: TheStickman

What will Trump have to get in return for amnesty for you to support him signing an amnesty bill. Let’s narrow it to DACA people..not all illegals at this point.


105 posted on 09/07/2017 10:17:13 AM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: RummyChick

Of course not, and are you certain you don’t work for the Dems?

You love to use Alinsky Rules for Radicals here particularly rule number #4.


106 posted on 09/07/2017 10:17:26 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: RummyChick

“What will Trump have to get in return for amnesty for you to support him signing an amnesty bill.”

As I clearly slated I don’t believe a amnesty bill will come up for a vote in the Senate so your question is moot.


107 posted on 09/07/2017 10:18:24 AM PDT by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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To: Red Steel

So if Trump signs amnesty for illegals will that make you a Dem because you don’t support amnesty for illegals?


108 posted on 09/07/2017 10:18:32 AM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: RummyChick

“So if Trump signs amnesty for illegals will that make you a Dem because you don’t support amnesty for illegals?”

I’m sorry but as non-sequiturs go, this one is HILARIOUS!!!


109 posted on 09/07/2017 10:19:49 AM PDT by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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To: TheStickman

So let’s be clear for future reference. Are you saying Trump will never sign an amnesty bill for DACA illegals?


110 posted on 09/07/2017 10:19:58 AM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: TheStickman

Nope, he is calling me a DEM because I am against some of the things Trump does...so will he be a DEM if Trump signs amnesty for illegals since he is against it.


111 posted on 09/07/2017 10:21:15 AM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: RummyChick

No it doesn’t make me a Dem, but the question is are a Democrat? Because all you do around here is be a Never Trumper.


112 posted on 09/07/2017 10:22:21 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: DesertRhino

Has anybody on this thread actually tried to argue that a 3-month extension of the debt ceiling is a good thing?

I’ve seen a lot of “this sticks it to the republicans who wanted a long-term debt increase”.

But where is the argument that doing this every 3 months is better?

We made that argument during Obama years, precisely because the debt limit gave the republicans power to force Obama to agree to their demands.

Which is why the democrats want it short now, because it gives them power to demand things every few months.

But why would the party in power want to give their opposition that opportunity, rather than resolving the issue?


113 posted on 09/07/2017 10:23:35 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: RummyChick

“So let’s be clear for future reference. Are you saying Trump will never sign an amnesty bill for DACA illegals?”

LMAO!!! You are seriously cracking me up. You’re employing CNN tactics to the letter which explains why you’re so incredibly incompetent at persuasion & logic. Truly, hilarious.

I’ve stated quite clearly what I expect will happen regarding any amnesty bill. If no amnesty bill is brought up for a vote in the Senate then there is no amnesty bill for President Trump to sign.


114 posted on 09/07/2017 10:23:45 AM PDT by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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To: Boomer

At this point the republicans are a very fracture party with 3 main factions; the establishment wing(GOPe), the socialist wing(RINO’s), and the conservative wing (Freedom Caucus). Those 3 factions are in no way aligned so why even keep up with the pretense they are on one side.


I don’t see the GOP as fractured at all. They are united in their opposition to Trump’s agenda. Not a single one of the “Freedom Caucus” has withdrawn support from Ryan or McConnell despite their many, many betrayals of the party platform and base. Let us never forget the Freedom Caucus voted for Ryan. They own this mess just as much as anybody else, IMO.


115 posted on 09/07/2017 10:24:38 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Red Steel

I have answered your question. I am more of a Conservative than Trump and NOT A DEM


116 posted on 09/07/2017 10:27:30 AM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: ifinnegan

Anyone who thinks Pelosi and Schumer are less dangerous is not a realist.


Anyone who thinks Ryan and McConnell have any interest at all in MAGA after the last 8 months has not been paying attention. Until the Congressional GOP breaks with them nothing will change.


117 posted on 09/07/2017 10:28:06 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: CharlesWayneCT

“But where is the argument that doing this every 3 months is better?”

IMO in this instance, it’s a great idea.

A) The GOPe wanted a 18 month CR.
B) President Trump forces the GOPe to be accountable to voters in the 2018 primaries regarding the budget.
C) President Trump has created leverage to use against the obstructionists in the GOPe in a way that I expect will lead to pro-Trump GOP candidates to win some seats from the UniParty if they don’t work with him on tax relief at the very least.
D)I also wouldn’t be surprised if the President doesn’t get the funding for the wall out of this as well.


118 posted on 09/07/2017 10:28:25 AM PDT by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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To: TheStickman

NOPE. I have clearly stated, in no uncertain terms, that Trump WILL sign an amnesty bill if presented to him.

Are you claiming he will NOT support amnesty by signing a bill if presented to him or do you agree he will sign it if presented to him..

Which is it?


119 posted on 09/07/2017 10:29:48 AM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: RummyChick

Sure. We should just elect you president because you have all the answers for every situation.


120 posted on 09/07/2017 10:30:35 AM PDT by Red Steel
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