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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

James 2:

14 What use is it, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but he has no works? Can that faith save him?

15 If a brother or sister is without clothing and in need of daily food, 

16 and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and be filled,” and yet you do not give them what is necessary for their body, what use is that?

17 Even so faith, if it has no works, is dead, being by itself.

18 But someone may well say, “You have faith and I have works; show me your faith without the works, and I show you my faith by my works.”

 19 You believe that God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder. 

20 But are you willing to recognize, you foolish fellow, that faith without works is useless?

 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up Isaac his son on the altar? 

22 You see that faith was working with his works, and as a result of the works, faith was perfected; 

23 and the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “And Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness,” and he was called the friend of God. 

24 You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone.

25 In the same way, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out by another way? 

26 For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.


12 posted on 09/03/2017 3:49:23 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

James is speaking about the evidence of faith, and justification before man.


29 posted on 09/03/2017 4:50:11 PM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: Fantasywriter

And to whom was the book of James written? “To the Twelve Tribes scattered abroad...” Still under the law, still offering sacrifices in the Temple, still practicing ritual circumcision.
Whereas Paul was “the Apostle to the Gentiles”. Free from the letter of the law, free from circumcision, free from sacrifices.
Each recognized the other’s different Gospel.

New International Version
James, Cephas and John, those esteemed as pillars, gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship when they recognized the grace given to me. They agreed that we should go to the Gentiles, and they to the circumcised.


44 posted on 09/03/2017 5:57:40 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Fantasywriter

And WHAT did JAMES demand of St Paul on his last trip to Jerusalem?

17And when we were come to Jerusalem, the brethren received us gladly.
18And the day following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present.
19And when he had saluted them, he declared particularly what things God had wrought among the Gentiles by his ministry.

20And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law:

21And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs.

22What is it therefore? the multitude must needs come together: for they will hear that thou art come.

23Do therefore this that we say to thee: We have four men which have a vow on them;

24Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law.

25As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication.

26Then Paul took the men, and the next day purifying himself with them entered into the temple, to signify the accomplishment of the days of purification, until that an offering should be offered for every one of them.

So, would YOU rather follow JAMES or PAUL.


45 posted on 09/03/2017 6:08:26 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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