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To: DrPretorius
Dream on: 11,389,568 English votes for Labour (28.98% of English electorate) and 12,346,007 votes (31.41% of electorate) for Tories: a 2.43% of electorate difference does not a ‘right wing’ country make—and that’s without taking into account another half-million plus votes for various other left wing parties (Alliance for Green Socialism, Communist League, Socialist Labour Party, Socialist Party of Great Britain, Workers Revolutionary Party, etc.) into account.

And how ‘right wing’ are Tories these days? The Tories only argument with Labour is who can pish most taxpayer-cash into the various socialist money pits. The Tories are as happy as Labour to imprison our troops (from Lee Clegg on Maggie’s watch to Sgt. Blackman) and are more concerned with pushing LGBT issues to the military than ensuring they have the kit and RoE to do their job.

Any prospect of the Tories restoring the death penalty? No.
Any prospect of the Tories restoring our right to bear arms (as per 1689 Bill of Rights)? No.
Any prospect of the Tories getting rid of the NHS? No.
Any prospect of the Tories seriously reducing immigration? No.
Any prospect of the Tories rolling back Muslim influence? No.
Any prospect of the Tories doing anything genuinely right wing? No.

Some figures:
England: electorate (2017) 39,303,867; MPs 533
Scotland: electorate (2017) 3,988,432; MPs 59
If England was right wing they could drag the rest of the country rightwards with ease, regardless of any contrary wishes of Wales, Scotland and NI combined (117 MPs and 7,529,291 electorate between them).

The problem with separatists is their ignoring very real problems in favour of chasing chimera—splitting centuries-old countries up and ‘othering’ your countrymen will not magically usher in ‘utopia’. East & West Europe at the turn of the 20th Century totalled 21 countries (including Turkey). Over the course of a century, 1901’s 21 countries fragmented (sometimes explosively) into 49. Is Europe better, more stable, more industrious, for that fragmentation?

More brother wars are not the answer. Mathew 7:15: ‘Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.

16 posted on 09/03/2017 8:13:16 AM PDT by QuisSeparabit (Still Scottish, Always British)
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To: QuisSeparabit

OK, your well developed response has me rethinking my post. Maybe, at this time, it makes no difference one way or the other whether Scotland (or Wales or Northern Ireland) secede. The United Kingdom is dead already.


17 posted on 09/03/2017 8:22:31 AM PDT by DrPretorius
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