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To: varyouga

Nurse needs to be fired and lose her credentials as soon as possible.

Possibly charged with aiding and abetting a crime after the fact as well.


8 posted on 09/01/2017 10:41:43 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan

I suspect the nurse will be cashing a check after the settlement/lawsuit. If anybody loses their job it should be the cop.


13 posted on 09/01/2017 10:46:36 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: ifinnegan

I suppose you can expound on what crime was committed by either the patient or the nurse?


15 posted on 09/01/2017 10:49:12 AM PDT by MortMan (Nobody goes there any more. It's too crowded! [Y. Berra])
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To: ifinnegan

“Nurse needs to be fired and lose her credentials as soon as possible.”

BUMP!


17 posted on 09/01/2017 10:50:01 AM PDT by sagar
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“Nurse needs to be fired and lose her credentials as soon as possible. Possibly charged with aiding and abetting a crime after the fact as well.”

What are you talking about? She was following law to the letter. Every single person around her and her boss confirmed it. And even showed him documentation.

The only crime here was done by a powertrippig police thug and several police who looked the other way.


19 posted on 09/01/2017 10:53:00 AM PDT by varyouga
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Are you insane? The cop needs to be fired.


22 posted on 09/01/2017 10:55:37 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: ifinnegan
Possibly charged with aiding and abetting a crime after the fact as well.

That's right. Following the law should be NO DEFENSE if you don't submit to an out-of-control cop!

Resistance is futile, citizen!

25 posted on 09/01/2017 11:02:17 AM PDT by Fido969 (IN!)
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She could be sued and lose her credentialing if she complied. A police officer does not have the right to demand a nurse draw blood on an unconscious patient, or anyone else, for that matter. He is not her employer. If the police want a suspected impaired driver to be tested for drugs or alcohol, they have people on staff who do that. If it’s a small town without staff, the state police have staff. I’m a registered nurse, and I know whereof I speak. If drawing blood were necessary to deliver emergent care, the nurse would be legally protected from being sued by the patient, but a doctor would be making the request, not a cop. That’s obviously not what’s going on here. The cop sounds like a bully, to me.


30 posted on 09/01/2017 11:08:25 AM PDT by Flaming Conservative
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To: ifinnegan

you get my vote for the worst post of the month.

Police officer should have requested a higher up make the decision, and he should have checked with his superior before making the arrest..better hope I am not on her civil jury for damages his conduct was outrageous imo and cannot be defended.


32 posted on 09/01/2017 11:12:49 AM PDT by rolling_stone (coming attraction...)
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Oh, here we go again.

*ducks for cover*


37 posted on 09/01/2017 11:16:25 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Vote for your guns!)
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There are protocols to follow, what did she do wrong?


39 posted on 09/01/2017 11:16:30 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: ifinnegan
Nurse needs to be fired and lose her credentials as soon as possible.

Possibly charged with aiding and abetting a crime after the fact as well.


I really can't tell if you are being dumb, ignorant, or sarcastic. Just in case you are being ignorant and didn't read up on this, I'll explain it to you:

1. After driving recklessly, a suspect, Marcos Torres, fled from the Utah Highway Patrol on July 26.

2. A police chase ensued.

3. The suspect trying to escape the Utah High Patrol crashed into William Gray, who is a truck driver when he is not serving as a reserve police office with the Rigby, Idaho Police Department.

4. The suspect, Marcos Torres, that was being chased, died at the scene.

5. William Gray, the victim, escaped from his truck while he was on fire, and was ultimately left with severe burns and is in a coma.

6. William Gray, the victim, was never under arrest, and was never a suspect (since the actual suspect ran into him).

7. Since 2007, police officers in Utah cannot take blood from an unconscious person without a warrant, even if the patient is under arrest.

8. Repeating the above - William Gray was never under arrest and was never the suspect

9. In 2016, the US Supreme Court ruled that the Constitution does not permit police to take blood without a warrant.

10. On video from a police body cam, Detective Jeff Payne threatens to take the nurse to jail if he doesn't get a sample, and claims she is interfering in a criminal case, even though the victim was never a suspect, nor was he ever under arrest, EVEN THOUGH HE HAS NO WARRANT, AND NO LEGAL OR CONSTITUTIONAL STANDING TO TAKE THE BLOOD.

11. On video from a police body cam, Detective Jeff Payne acknowledges that the legal and Constitutional requirements are not met for a police officer to take blood from an unconscious person who is neither under arrest or a victim.


12. On police video, Detective Jeff Payne, after admitting that no legal or Constitutional requirements are met, still insists that he has the authority to take the blood.

13. Detective Jeff Payne states at one point that he "either go away with blood in vials or a body in tow"

14. While standing in the parking lot, Detective Jeff Payne, who is also works for an ambulance company in his off-time, states “I’ll bring them all the transients and take good patients elsewhere,”

15. In his report, Detective Jeff Payne states that he cannot "obtain the blood sample with a warrant."


If some of those words are too large for you to understand, there try this:

A cop does not have the right, under Utah and United States Constitutional law, to take the blood of the unconscious victim without a warrant.

Cop wants to take blood from an unconscious victim who was hit by a person being chased by the Utah Highway Patrol.

Cop is told that he can't do it without a warrant. Cop also admits that he doesn't have the warrant or legal standing, but claims he has some mythical authority to do so. Arrests nurse who stands in his way.
47 posted on 09/01/2017 11:21:28 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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Because the cops didn’t follow the correct procedure and obtain a warrant?

You’re a good little Eichmann.


48 posted on 09/01/2017 11:21:30 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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Depends on the state if she acted lawfully or not.

In Texas, free flowing blood can be wiped off the patient and then used for a BAC assessment. . .and if the blood drips onto hospital beds/chairs/furniture or the floor, the blood may be taken for BAC assessment.


49 posted on 09/01/2017 11:22:06 AM PDT by Hulka
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Nurse needs to be fired and lose her credentials as soon as possible. Possibly charged with aiding and abetting a crime after the fact as well.

Did you forget the sarcasm tag?

57 posted on 09/01/2017 11:29:45 AM PDT by Washi
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“Nurse needs to be fired and lose her credentials as soon as possible.

Possibly charged with aiding and abetting a crime after the fact as well.”

Ridiculous.

It’s the cop who belongs in jail.


61 posted on 09/01/2017 11:35:31 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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The unconscious guy was a reserve cop. No warrant, no custody, no patient permission, no blood sample per Supreme Court ruling.


70 posted on 09/01/2017 11:42:50 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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Must you always be a dip-$hit?
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75 posted on 09/01/2017 11:46:30 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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Actually if the cop didn’t have a warrant the Nurse could lose her credentials if she drew the blood without consent. She’s not wrong here.

Police officer should have remained while the patient was treated and asked for a warrant with probable cause. They can’t force you to give your blood when your conscious why would they be able to obtain such evidence when your unconscious?


78 posted on 09/01/2017 11:49:47 AM PDT by reed13k
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No, not how this works. Not how any of this works. LE in my area got themselves and a hospital sued for the same type of shenanigans. Those that had medical procedures done on them with no consent and no warrant are millionaires now.


111 posted on 09/01/2017 1:02:44 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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I wish that was sarcasm.

But I'll ask what crime? (and disrespect of a badge isn't actually a crime)

236 posted on 09/01/2017 6:58:49 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Winter is coming)
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