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ACLU SUES TRUMP OVER TRANSGENDER MILITARY BAN
WTVQ-TV ^ | 8/28/17

Posted on 08/29/2017 2:58:57 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

The American Civil Liberties Union has filed a lawsuit challenging President Donald Trump’s ban on transgender individuals joining the military.

The federal lawsuit , Stone v. Trump, was filed in Maryland on Monday by the ACLU of Maryland on behalf of Petty Officer First Class Brock Stone, an 11-year Navy veteran who served in Afghanistan, and several other transgender....

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: constitution; military; sexuality
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Huh. Somehow I missed the part of the Constitution that says the ACLU is commander in chief.

The ACLU didn't file suit for decades. And suddenly what, ten months ago, Hussein tried to force the next administration to take people who won't accept biology...

Now the ACLU thinks it is a Constitutional right.

1 posted on 08/29/2017 2:58:57 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper
Huh. Somehow I missed the part of the Constitution that says the ACLU is commander in chief.

Judicial holdovers from the Obama administration want to be the executive branch and the ACLU knows this. Time to get rid of as many holdovers that are poisoning this nation!

2 posted on 08/29/2017 3:05:41 AM PDT by CptnObvious (uestion her now.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Government school lunches are a constitutional right.
Healthcare is a constitutional right.
Transgenders in the military is a constitutional right.

Freedom of speech?
Freedom of religion?
Right to keep and bear arms?
These might have been swell ideas at one time, but they don’t rise to level of constitutional rights these days ...


3 posted on 08/29/2017 3:18:54 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Benedict McCain is the worst traitor ever to wear the uniform of the US military.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

what do Navy personnel do in the middle of a desert ???

I know Dave Roever and the others were on boats on the rivers in the jungles of Vietnam, but Afghanistan ???

I doubt this man pretending to be a woman was carrying a gun on the frontlines...


4 posted on 08/29/2017 3:25:20 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: SoFloFreeper; P-Marlowe

There is no right to serve on the US military, so the guy has no injury.


5 posted on 08/29/2017 3:27:42 AM PDT by xzins ( Support the Freepathon! Every donation is important.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Some disqualifications for enlistment:

http://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/disqualifiers-medical-conditions.html

- Inflammatory bowel disease

- Hemorrhoids, internal or external, when large, symptomatic, or history of bleeding

- Persons with artificial openings

- Immunodeficiency

- Night blindness

- Near visual acuity of any degree that does not correct to 20/40 in the better eye

- Major abnormalities and defects of the genitalia such as a change of sex

. . . and MANY more


They are not calling out transgender for special discrimination; there is no malice against perverts, those with leprosy, or anyone else listed. The military is rationally screening out people with physical or mental impairments that make them less deployable or less likely to remain mentally stable under the pressures of military life.


6 posted on 08/29/2017 3:30:47 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: SoFloFreeper

It is time to stop this insane social experiment that has devastated our military for the last 10-15 years. It is time to make our military a true fighting machine. We need better training, better equipment, and a force that can fight and win on multiple fronts. And we need it NOW!


7 posted on 08/29/2017 3:32:37 AM PDT by ImNotLying (The Constitution is an instrument for the people to restrain the government...Patrick Henry)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The lawsuit says Trump’s policy violates the equal protection rights of transgender service members who now have “grave reason to fear for their careers.”

Do not see how this could work. The choices you make in life are not protected.


8 posted on 08/29/2017 3:34:44 AM PDT by 48th SPS Crusader (I am an American. Not a Republican or a Democrat)
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To: SoFloFreeper

This is ludicrous.

Some “transgenders” have a sexual fetish. Some have a severe mental illness in which they desperately wish they were a person of the other gender.

In neither case are we talking about civil rights. We’re talking about fetishes and mental illness—disqualifiers from the military.

And the left is attempting to change language and rewrite history, just as they did with the ban of gays in the military, which Obama also overturned. Although it has *never* been the case that perverts have been welcome into the military, and all Trump did was state that that will remain the policy, the left is pretending that Trump has made some huge change.

No, people do *not* have a civil right to go into the military to get their expensive body mutilations done at taxpayer expense. The military is not a welfare program.


9 posted on 08/29/2017 3:44:11 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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Then let the ACLU foot the bill for all the surgery involved and put through mental patients up for the first year as they recover as the are no use to the military.

Using the military for free surgery is not volunteering to serve.


10 posted on 08/29/2017 3:46:22 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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what do Navy personnel do in the middle of a desert ???

Ever heard of Chris Kyle?
USN Master Chief, I believe.

But this guy, not likely - Marines use Navy corpsmen as medics.

11 posted on 08/29/2017 3:51:15 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: Pollster1

By all rights I should have denied enlistment, I was born flat-footed, I never mentioned it and the Military never found it. After 20 years of service it is nowhere in my records.


12 posted on 08/29/2017 3:52:28 AM PDT by amigatec (2 Thess 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:)
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To: SoFloFreeper

There’s a whole industry of homosexual “rights” lawyers and law firms.


13 posted on 08/29/2017 3:57:02 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: American in Israel

they wont stay in after the operation...they now have a “disability”

medical discharge ...full disability payment ...about $3000 a month...

service connected...

they could claim this for life...


14 posted on 08/29/2017 3:58:34 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: American in Israel

oh and social security for a disability...maybe at lest $500..

all tax free...

100% disability...first in line at the VA clinics and hospitals...


15 posted on 08/29/2017 4:00:31 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: ImNotLying

I agree that our military has been devastated, but Obama and all his policies are just symptomatic. Having been in the military since 1986 and working with military folks every day, the majority of younger troops are very liberal when it comes to social policies. Many, if not most, of these kids are completely amoral and moral military leadership is nonexistent. Curse me and call me a liar, but I see and hear it every day. How many military leaders spoke out against Obama like they do against Trump?

Homosexuality is fine; marriage is a social construct; and 90% couldn’t tell you the difference between fascism, socialism, or capitalism. Their teachers, media, and peers have greater influence than any religion, morality or ethical system.

As usual, conservatives want to treat symptoms rather than look at the root cause. The country is morally bankrupt and our youth are captives in peer prisons that are invisible and incomprehensible to previous generations.


16 posted on 08/29/2017 4:17:49 AM PDT by antidisestablishment ( We few, we happy few, we basket of deplorables)
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I never mentioned it . . .

A very different approach from today's activists who won't shut up about their disqualifying traits.

17 posted on 08/29/2017 4:33:04 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: SoFloFreeper

Do mentally ill have equal rights in the military? Gender identity issues are a mental illness. Just because it is prevalent does not make it normal.


18 posted on 08/29/2017 4:42:31 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Tennessee Nana

You have just identified the number one problem at the VA hospital. People who want to be sick and prove it to get $$$ rather than wanting to get well.

I would like to see the statistics of PTSD claims from women vets who claimed PTSD from sexual harassment. Obama changed the rules to open this door and flood the VA.


19 posted on 08/29/2017 4:50:17 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: SoFloFreeper

After Hogan (R) was elected in Marylandistan, the State’s AG (D) immediately moved to act independently of the Governor, allowing himself the luxury of filing lawsuits without Hogan’s approval.

He has exercised this option a couple times already - each time in opposition to Trump.

I love about 18 counties (of the 23) in Maryland. Pee-Gee, Montgummery, How-weird, Ball-more, and Banarundull are lib nests.


20 posted on 08/29/2017 4:51:35 AM PDT by Ken Regis
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