and the CNO is never mentioned... perfect"Training is (and has been) deficient for surface ships’ officers and crews for at least 15 years."
Last year our Admirals made a lot of important things happen. They introduced a new rank system and got rid of rates as old as the Navy. That will help sailors find better jobs after the leave the navy. Also, they made huge strides in making sure men who cut their penises off get threated like a lady.
Vague generalities based upon nothing specific to these two “accidents”.
WHO were the EXACT people who screwed up on each of these ships. Once that is known (it almost certainly already is) then attempt to figure out WHY they screwed up.
Somebody or something or some class of navy personnel is being protected, IMHO.
I wonder if sensitivity training gets fully funded? It sounds like collisions will be the new normal, until they fix the problems. The problems did not happen overnight, and won’t be fixed overnight either.
Getting a submarine certed for URO was always a byzantine nightmare, but we were always glad it was. THRESHER still seems like it was just yesterday.
Universities, including USNA are producing shit for degrees and officers. It’s not new, and has been on the decline for 20 yrs.
Accountability is dead
The massive year after year reduction in defense spending began under President Bush I, continued through all the rest. Working with fewer resources the military was asked to do more than win wars and keep the peace.
That said, the military was unprepared at other times in history when wars broke out. As a civilian, who doesn’t understand Navy Speak in this article, my only question is: can the Navy rebuild its lost programs under Donald Trump’s leadership?
Will Congress increase the budget for the Defense Dept over the years of a Trump Presidency?
Back in the day I was the Unit Status Report (USR) Rep in several units. However, I understand that several units, especially those on combat status such as hot ADA batteries in Europe and Korea would falsely report to paint a rosy picture.
I wonder if the Navy has that issue.
Good article that covers most all of the reasons for the recent problems with USN surface ships.
I recall a posting here a week or two ago that also mentioned the Navy was no longer requiring the officers to go through the “driving school” before taking control of the surface ships. That was eliminated because of budget cuts to our military services by previous administrations.
Hopefully, the Trump administration will correct those budget problems.
...Former CVA-42, V-2 Cat
Both Bill Clinton and Barack Obama allowed our military to fester.
Holy smokes.....I knew it was orobably bad but i had no idea it was this bad.
Tha ks lord I was in the Navy at the end if the cold war when we maintained our equipment and men.
These accidents make no sense to me - I’m wondering if an enemy is using electronic counter measures that are crippling or deceiving our radar and or nav systems. This article is just general boilerplate requests for more funding, which may or may not be needed....
Given no mention, is the possibility that too many unqualified people are in the navy, for reasons of political correctness.
eight years of obama’s affirmative action in action...
for every accident,
there are dozens of near-misses
or not, please discuss
This is where teaching army recruits to walk in high heels and other social engineering foolishness takes precedence over readiness, competence and war fighting.
A simpler explanation is the underway crews were napping on their watch stations.
I was on a ship out of Japan & Pearl in 1980 this situation was well underway even then. My sailors were sourcing spare parts @ Radio Shack to keep our primary mission equipment operational. It took some effort to convince the command to submit CASREP’s to inform the chain of command of the real equipment readiness. The change lead to receiving spares previously thought to be obsolete. This significantly improved the crew’s performance & our mission product.
There was great concern even back then that a CASREP would reflect poorly on your CO’s performance.
Sad & concerning to realize this is still going on & the current level of dysfunction.
“The profit margin for parts and labor associated with maintenance is trivial compared with while the margins for building big, new things.”
If this is true for the military, it certainly isn’t true in the general economy. Try buying spare parts for you car, or that air compressor at the shop, and see if those parts aren’t ridiculously overpriced.
and the CNO is never mentioned... perfect