and the CNO is never mentioned... perfect
Posted on 08/28/2017 10:21:40 PM PDT by Ace's Dad
Deception of radar and navigation systems make even less sense than fundamental failures of seamanship. Trained, competent watchstanding on the destroyers would have made such collisions impossible. After in-port OOD qualification, the most basic level of OOD training is independent steaming. The OODs of these ships failed at that.
Quite concerning. Have also wondered if there was an ‘omen’ component to the McCain fiasco. The namesake scoundrel is a traitorous bustard fit for being keel hauled for treason. It sure seems like ‘they’ want our military castrated and in disarray.
The Bushes carry an equal amount of blame. Go back and look at budgeting. If you factor out the spending on the Sandbox wars the spending trend has been on a steady decline.
eight years of obama’s affirmative action in action...
This is shocking:
“Individual-level training for both officers and enlisted personnel has been gutted. Testing and other performance-related standards were eliminated to improve throughput, reduce attrition, and make seniors happy.”
I read this as standards being lowered to permit social promotion for equity reasons, and to accommodate what is likely a signicant lack of literacy among many recruits. Training standards are there for a reason - both physical and technical. Once you put social engineering above operational effectiveness, this is the result.
America’s naval vulnerability is being exposed to the world and its enemies are watching with great interest.
for every accident,
there are dozens of near-misses
or not, please discuss
Probably so.
there are dozens of near-misses
This is a basic truism for industrial safety, as any competent investigator can tell you. Effective reporting, recording, and investigation of near-misses is a first-step in improvement of safety programs. The primary reason for this step being effective is that the search for root-cause is shortened.
The article states the budget cuts that affected training and maintenance cycles as the root cause. Assuming records exist, the proof of the assertion will show in the near-misses first rather than moving immediately to the catastrophic evidence of recent events.
I prefer to call them near hits. I am swimming upstream on that one.
This is where teaching army recruits to walk in high heels and other social engineering foolishness takes precedence over readiness, competence and war fighting.
If Obama had a Navy.....
A simpler explanation is the underway crews were napping on their watch stations.
I was on a ship out of Japan & Pearl in 1980 this situation was well underway even then. My sailors were sourcing spare parts @ Radio Shack to keep our primary mission equipment operational. It took some effort to convince the command to submit CASREP’s to inform the chain of command of the real equipment readiness. The change lead to receiving spares previously thought to be obsolete. This significantly improved the crew’s performance & our mission product.
There was great concern even back then that a CASREP would reflect poorly on your CO’s performance.
Sad & concerning to realize this is still going on & the current level of dysfunction.
Just getting them recognized, no matter the label, is a significant part of the battle, IMO.
I agree. I have seen the aggressive move to “Safety” significantly depress incident reporting. Foolish managers stand up in meetings and take credit for reducing incidents because - the reporting of them has gone down. They are ripe for a surprise incident where someone gets maimed or dies.
“The profit margin for parts and labor associated with maintenance is trivial compared with while the margins for building big, new things.”
If this is true for the military, it certainly isn’t true in the general economy. Try buying spare parts for you car, or that air compressor at the shop, and see if those parts aren’t ridiculously overpriced.
The watches are not fully manned according to some of the reports that I’ve been reading. What I get from this article is that naval officers manning the bridge are deficient in training and experience. The problem is the same with the watch-standers.
One mistake compounds the other until you have the potential for catastrophe.
Get real. A large lumbering oil tanker traveling at 20 kts with the turning ability that makes a school bus look like it has the handling capabilities of a Daytona Prototype racecar against a nimble destroyer listed at 35 kts with about every conceivable avoidance toys in the world.
That makes about as much logical sense as AntiFA being non-violent.
AntiFA = AntiFirstAmendment
and the CNO is never mentioned... perfect
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