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To: ClearCase_guy

A wild assumption with absolutely no basis for belief. It’s like saying, “And then a miracle happened!”

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We simply don’t know how abiogenesis occurred. We do have a good idea of the environment, that it was much different than today, and that it only occurred once.

The well respected Christian philosopher, Alvin Plantinga, believes that evolution supports theism more than it supports naturalism.

Just because we don’t know how it happened, doesn’t mean it was a miracle.


48 posted on 08/25/2017 8:40:55 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Moonman62

Semantically true.....but....

If all of our knowledge cannot account for life to start without preexistent life, but is something that goes on daily in reproductive bio systems,is it possible to allow a creative being to start it?

Should we be surprised if life was created? Why can’t a creator be a part of reality? Why is a creator ruled out...(unless it is some super alien civilation)?

Should we systemically and vehemently attack and ostracize those scientists who believe that life was created?


75 posted on 08/25/2017 10:14:20 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find)
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To: Moonman62

Who created the guy on the right? It appears he’s made out of the same material.

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Michelangelo. Painting an image of a non-corporal Supreme Being is difficult. I guess he relied on cartoon-logic instead.

Unfortunately, practically every atheist has his cartoon in their heads when they attempt to conceptualize the Creator of the Universe.

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We simply don’t know how abiogenesis occurred. We do have a good idea of the environment, that it was much different than today, and that it only occurred once.

The well respected Christian philosopher, Alvin Plantinga, believes that evolution supports theism more than it supports naturalism.
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Evolution is not abiogenesis.


84 posted on 08/25/2017 10:27:42 AM PDT by angryoldfatman
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To: Moonman62; Getready; angryoldfatman; ClearCase_guy; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; ...
We simply don’t know how abiogenesis occurred. We do have a good idea of the environment, that it was much different than today, and that it only occurred once....Just because we don’t know how it happened, doesn’t mean it was a miracle.

A rose by any other name. Did you read the article? A miracle - seeing as they do occur - is the most reasonable explanation in the light of the astronomical odds against a naturalistic hypotheses.

99 posted on 08/26/2017 6:40:35 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + folllow Him)
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