Posted on 08/24/2017 11:18:35 PM PDT by Ray76
Ukraine has marked the 26th anniversary of its independence from the former Soviet Union with a military parade joined by NATO units.
On Thursday, Kiev hosted the parade of about 4,500 personnel, including some deployed in eastern Ukraine, where conflict with pro-Russian separatists continues. It was the first Independence Day parade to feature representatives of NATO members, including the United States and Poland.
President Petro Poroshenko delivered a speech, indicating that Ukraine hopes to join NATO to deal with security threats from Russia.
One of the spectators told NHK that Ukraine needs to gain full independence from Russia.
President Poroshenko held talks with US Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, whose visit was scheduled to coincide with Independence Day. Poroshenko said they talked about cooperation in various fields, including defense.
Mattis told reporters after the meeting that Russia is trying to redraw international borders by force, referring to its annexation of Crimea in 2014. He said Ukraine does not, and will not accept such acts.
Mattis hinted that the US government may comply with Ukraine's request for weapons. He said defensive weapons are not provocative, unless the user is an aggressor, which Ukraine clearly is not.
Stay out of bed with the Ukrainians.
And what, side with KGB Putin’s expansionist Russia?
Donald Trump slammed President Obama Thursday on TODAY for failing to take a stronger line against President Vladimir Putin in dealing with Ukraine, saying he feared Obama would now make up for lost time with imprudent moves to "show his manhood."
The real estate mogul and reality-TV star, who has criticized Putin for sending military troops into Crimea, said Obama must now take fierce steps to prevent the situation from escalating further.
"We should definitely do sanctions and we have to show some strengths. I mean, Putin has eaten Obama's lunch, therefore our lunch, for a long period of time," Trump said. ..."
http://www.today.com/news/donald-trump-putin-has-eaten-obamas-lunch-ukraine-2D79372098
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Heres the interview w/ Matt Lauer on YouTube...
Donald Trump (2014): Vladimir Putin Has Eaten Obamas Lunch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzURUENf1ns
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LONDON (Reuters) - U.S. President-elect Donald Trump said NATO was obsolete because it had not defended against terror attacks, but that the military alliance was still very important to him, The Times of London reported.
I took such heat, when I said NATO was obsolete, Trump told the newspaper in an interview. Its obsolete because it wasnt taking care of terror. I took a lot of heat for two days. And then they started saying Trump is right.
Trump added that many NATO members were not paying their fair share for U.S. protection.
A lot of these countries arent paying what theyre supposed to be paying, which I think is very unfair to the United States, Trump said. With that being said, NATO is very important to me. Theres five countries that are paying what theyre supposed to. Five. Its not much.
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When Donald Trump and I observe that, as Ive said, in Syria, in Iran, in Ukraine, that the small and bullying leader of Russia has been stronger on the world stage than this administration, thats stating painful facts. Thats not an endorsement of Vladimir Putin thats an indictment of the weak and feckless leadership of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. ..."
What were dealing with is the you know, theres an old proverb that says the Russian bear never dies, it just hibernates.
And the truth of the matter is, the weak and feckless foreign policy of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama has awakened an aggression in Russia that first appeared a few years ago with their move in Georgia, now their move into Crimea, now their move into the wider Middle East.
And all the while, all we do is fold our arms and say were not having talks anymore.
To answer your question, we just need American strength. We need to we need to marshal the resources of our allies in the region, and in the immediate, we need to act and act now to get people out of harms way.
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March 26, 2015
excerpt...
What do you expect next from Russia?
Sessions: Well, there's a danger that they may continue this overreach. They just solidified power in Georgia, in South Ossetia. That was I think in the last week. Pressure is still on Ukraine. We don't know whether the Minsk Agreement will hold, I don't think it's holding very well now.
We have the Estonians, the Lithuanians, the Romanians, they're very worried. This is reality, I wish it weren't, but I'm afraid it is. It needs to be clear that Russia knows that there will be a high price to pay if this behavior continues.
If Minsk breaks down, at what point does the president have to act and supply Ukraine with lethal weaponry? What is the breaking point? We know from what Victoria Nuland said that the administration hasn't decided yet.
Sessions: From what I understand from this conference, I think it's clear that Germany has said publicly that they will support harsher sanctions and more military support if the Minsk Agreement fails. And that will be key.
Merkel has worked very very hard to establish a relationship with Putin and Russia. It's been a good-faith effort. If it fails, I would hope that Europe and the United States would have to unify and push back more firmly against Russian overreach. ..."
or,
By SOMINI SENGUPTA
Feb 2, 2017
UNITED NATIONS Nikki R. Haley, the new American ambassador to the United Nations, condemned Russia on Thursday for its recent aggressive actions in eastern Ukraine.
We do want to better our relations with Russia, Ms. Haley said during her first remarks to an open briefing of the United Nations Security Council. However, the dire situation in eastern Ukraine is one that demands clear and strong condemnation of Russian actions.
She made it clear that American sanctions imposed after Russias annexation of Crimea would remain in place.
During her Senate confirmation hearing last month, Ms. Haley also expressed support for continuing the sanctions and accused Russia of committing war crimes in the Syrian conflict. But her strong criticism of the government of President Vladimir V. Putin put her at odds with President Trump, who has expressed a desire for warmer relations with the Kremlin. ...
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/02/world/europe/nikki-haley-trump-ukraine-russia-putin.html?_r=0
Thousands of soldiers and sailors took part in the traditional parade on the 72nd anniversary of German surrender in WWII. President Putin said Russian soliders "manifest courage and heroism.".
Around 10,000 troops marched through Moscow's Red Square for the central parade, with smaller events organized in St. Petersburg and other Russian cities.
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Russian president, Vladimir "KGB/FSB" Putin
"'The Black Book of Communism,'; a scholarly accounting of communisms crimes, counts about 94 million murdered by the supposed champions of the common man (20 million for the Soviets alone), and some say that number is too low."
Forgetting the Evils of Communism: The amnesia bites a little deeper
By Jonah Goldberg, August 2008:
http://web.archive.org/web/20090228095645/http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZmY0MjI1MDgyYjg1M2UwNDMzMTk2Mjk5YTk0ZTdlMWE=
Did Communism Fake Its Own Death in 1991?
American Thinker ^ | January 16, 2010 | Jason McNew
In a [] 1984 book [New Lies for Old], ex-KGB Major Anatoliy Golitsyn predicted the liberalization of the Soviet Bloc and claimed that it would be a strategic deception. ..."
"Golitsyn's argument was that beginning in about 1960, the Soviet Union embarked on a strategy of massive long-range strategic deception which would span several decades and result in the destruction of Western capitalism and the erection of a communist world government."
"Golitsyn published his second book, The Perestroika Deception, after the Soviet Union was dissolved in 1991. This book contained further analysis of the liberalization, in addition to previously classified memoranda submitted by Golitsyn to the CIA. The two books must be read together to get a complete picture of Golitsyn's thesis."
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/01/did_communism_fake_its_own_dea.html
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Link to read "New Lies for Old" online:
https://archive.org/details/GolitsynAnatoleTheNewLiesForOldOnes
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Link to read "The Perestroika Deception" online:
https://archive.org/details/pdfy-TVvzZzfXiMBkMdvD
OMG! On the right! Obama defected to Russia!
From Accuracy In Media | AIM.ORG
Obamas Red Mentor Praised Red Army
AIM Report | By Cliff Kincaid | April 30, 2008
Barack Obamas childhood mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, a member of the Moscow-controlled Communist Party USA (CPUSA), wrote a poem dedicated to the Soviet Red Army. Smash on, victory-eating Red Army, he declared. He also wrote poems attacking traditional Christianity and the work of Christian missionaries.
The Red Army poem goes beyond hoping for the communists to beat the Nazis in World War II and hails the Soviet revolution. It says:
Show the marveling multitudes
Americans, British, all your allied brothers
How strong you are
How great you are
How your young tree of new unity
Planted twenty-five years ago
Bears today the golden fruit of victory!
http://www.aim.org/aim-report/obamas-red-mentor-praised-red-army/
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Obamas Communist Mentor
AIM Column | By Cliff Kincaid | February 18, 2008
excerpt...
"through Frank Marshall Davis, Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his 'poetry' and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just 'Frank.'
The reason is apparent: Davis was a known communist who belonged to a party subservient to the Soviet Union. In fact, the 1951 report of the Commission on Subversive Activities to the Legislature of the Territory of Hawaii identified him as a CPUSA member. What's more, anti-communist congressional committees, including the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), accused Davis of involvement in several communist-front organizations."
Frank Chapman, a CPUSA supporter, has written a letter to the party newspaper hailing the Illinois senator's victory in the Iowa caucuses:
"Obamas victory was more than a progressive move; it was a dialectical leap ushering in a qualitatively new era of struggle. Marx once compared revolutionary struggle with the work of the mole, who sometimes burrows so far beneath the ground that he leaves no trace of his movement on the surface. This is the old revolutionary 'mole,' not only showing his traces on the surface but also breaking through."
-People's Weekly World (PWW), official newspaper of the Communist Party, USA
http://www.pww.org/article/articleview/12302/1/405
(Note: article has since been pulled from the Communist Party USA/Peoples Weekly World/PWW website)
However, in addition to the linked AIM article, you can also find reference to it here:
http://www.wnd.com/2008/11/79877/
AIM article: Obamas Communist Mentor
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-communist-mentor/
How ironic that they are celebrating their independence while they are destroying those areas in Ukraine that are fighting for their own independence.
BTW, thank you, Comrade McGruff, once again, for your loyalty to me and to Mother Russia!
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"The term 'useful idiots' has been attributed to Lenin, as a description of those mindless people in the Western democracies who would always find ways to excuse whatever the Soviet Union did. Columnist Mona Charen's new book Useful Idiots shows that such people are still with us.
Long after the Soviet Union's horrors had become too widely known around the world for their sympathizers in the West to be able to get away with whitewashing the USSR, new Communist dictatorships arose to become the new objects of the affections of the Western intelligentsia and of like-minded people in the media and in politics. ..."
http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2003/05/20/useful_idiots
Ukraine has great natural resources,unbelievable farm land and a good resourceful people. However they are cursed with pandemic corruption.
80 years of Russian style Socialism has retarded their history.
The two of them sure look "fruity".
The Ukrainian people are freedom loving and long for closer ties with America and the West. They had been promised this by their government but President Yanokovich (sp?) a twice convicted felon, leader of the Russian mafia, kleptocrat and political puppet of Putin and Russia broke that promise, and stole the country, its government and people blind to the tune of over 70 BILLION DOLLARS before fleeing to Russia. Note: Once he got to Russia the first thing he did was buy a 50 MILLION DOLLAR mansion with a tiny portion of the money he stole. Those are all indisputable facts.
The Ukrainian people peacefully protested his betrayal of the country for weeks. All they wanted was freedom from Russia and Russian influence and closer ties with America and the West, which they had been promised by their government, which Yanokocich broke.
The protest remained peaceful until Yanokocich unleashed his brutal government forces (along with Russian military suport) against them for their "crime" of wanting to remain free.
The above facts are chronicled in the documentary "Winter on Fire":
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9OeBMFYBMNI
Since losing its oppressive grip on Ukraine, Putin's Russia illegally stole and annexed Ukraine Crimea through military force and presently occupy Crimea and keep it under Russian domination and control by military force. They have placed Russian missiles in Crimea, seeded minefields within the only causeway linking the peninsular to mainland Ukraine, and uterly destroyed Crimea's once thriving tourist industry. Who but Russians wants to visit a Russian occupied country that has been turned into one giant prison hell hole of misery for everyone there who isn't Russian?
Russia has also illegally attacked and is in a protracted, undeclared war with Ukraine using its own military under the guise of "little green men" = Russian troops and equipment that have intentionally removed all of their Russian military insignea (these are the same Russian military "little green men" who shot a civilian passenger plane out of the sky killing everyone on board), along with support from fifth columnist surrogate Russian Ukrainians whose goal is to once again see the entire Ukraine reduced to a satellite state of Russia = under the boot and control of Russia, just like Ukraine was in the "good old" bad old days of Soviet Russia.
One more thing deserves to be mentioned: Mass graves containing hundreds of bodies of people murdered by Russian troops and their Russian Ukrainian surrogates while under their occupation have been found in EVERY AREA that has been recaptured and liberated from Russian forces by Ukrainian military units loyal to Ukraine!
All of the above and more are reasons why Ukraine deserves American and Nato support. They aren't asking us to fight for them, they are simply asking for the tools and weapons to fight for themselves in order to restore and maintain their freedom as a sovereign, democratic nation.
Tragically what you say is true. That said, the Ukraine and its freedom loving people still deserve our support.
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