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Australian Gun Culture Part 15: Prohibited Weapons in Australia
Ammoland ^ | 23 August, 2017 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 08/24/2017 1:22:08 PM PDT by marktwain


In Australia, I became aware of an administrative procedure where the state police can find a person unfit to possess either firearms, firearms parts, or prohibited weapons. What exactly were prohibited weapons under Australian law?

This website lists prohibited weapons.

The list is extensive and, from an American perspective, bizarre. Some of the weapons are antiquated. Others are modern, while some may be simple mistakes or misunderstandings.  I have studied weapons law of many American states. It appears that someone in Australia (probably the George Soros funded group that was headed by Rebecca Peters) looked up all the prohibited weapons they could find in law, anywhere, and lumped them all together on the prohibited list. I have edited the list to take out duplication.

Here is the list of prohibited weapons, in italics. My comments are in standard print.  From australianpolice.com:

Miscellaneous Weapons:

*Missile launchers:

any device that is designed to propel or launch a bomb, grenade, rocket or missile by any means other than an explosive.

No air propelled rockets or water balloon launchers. No potato launchers. No hobby rockets or model rockets.  It appears that a simple sling is prohibited. No biblical era missile launchers allowed. If the term “missile” below excludes simple rocks or solid objects, the above may be allowed.  I hope that is the interpretation the police would use. Bows seem to be commonly available and unregulated except for crossbows.

Bomb, grenade, rocket, missile or mine:

or any similar device which expels or contains an explosive, incendiary, irritant or gas. 

Flame thrower:

that is of military design or any other device that is capable of projecting ignited incendiary fuel.

Crossbow:

or any similar device consisting of a bow fitted transversely on


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TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: australia; banglist; weapons; weaponslaw
The list of prohibited weapons is long, complicated, and full of common articles in the United States.
1 posted on 08/24/2017 1:22:09 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Crikey, this is going to boomerang on them or Bob’s your billabong.


2 posted on 08/24/2017 1:25:52 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: marktwain

Neutered Australian culture bump for later....


3 posted on 08/24/2017 1:51:35 PM PDT by indthkr
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To: tumblindice

Put another shrimp on the barbie? Not bloody likely, mate.

I’ll stay here in America where gun rights are intact except in a few nutbag states.

And that’s fair dinkum.


4 posted on 08/24/2017 2:00:14 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: tumblindice

My boomerang won’t come back!
My boomerang won’t come back!
I wagged the thang all over the place,
Practiced till I was black in the face,
I’m a big disgrace to the aborigine race!
My Boomerang won’t come back!

Wonder if rope is legal to ..
“Tie me Kangaroo down.”

If knives are banned how did... “we tanned his hide when he died Clyde,
And that’s it hanging on the shed! in Memorium!”


5 posted on 08/24/2017 2:07:59 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: tumblindice

Australian gun laws as told by a cosmic jungle penguin surrounded in a cloak of Aztec bats circling the lunar vortex of peace and your kangaroo is loose in the upper paddock.


6 posted on 08/24/2017 2:12:47 PM PDT by SkyDancer (There Are Three Great Ways To Perfect Landings - Unfortunately We Pilots Don't Know Them.)
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To: SkyDancer; All

https://youtu.be/piWCBOsJr-w
Never turn your back on a member of the British Commonwealth wielding a banana.
If you are unsure, ask him to pronounce `banana’.


7 posted on 08/24/2017 2:19:10 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: tumblindice

The BC have too many ‘a’s’ in banana.


8 posted on 08/24/2017 2:21:50 PM PDT by SkyDancer (There Are Three Great Ways To Perfect Landings - Unfortunately We Pilots Don't Know Them.)
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To: marktwain
Was doing some aircraft repair in a hangar with a few Aussie mechanics (ex-Aussie Navy) - they were absolutely drooling over my copy of American Rifleman!
Things they cannot have.
9 posted on 08/24/2017 3:56:56 PM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: elcid1970

One phone call by a woman and your guns are gone.

The laws are easily circumvented.


10 posted on 08/24/2017 5:56:07 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: marktwain

Great! My ECM device is not specified on the list in form, factor or component description whatsoever, and therefore is completely legal in all of Australia. It is far more effective than all of the banned products combined!


11 posted on 08/24/2017 8:42:16 PM PDT by Torquay
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To: Secret Agent Man

The Parliamentary form of government (one party controls all branches) has been described as “dictatorship interrupted by elections”.

Aussie PM decides he doesn’t want people to possess Remington 870’s. He conveys his wishes to Parliament & as Paul Begala likes to say, “Stroke of the pen, law of the land. Kind of cool”.

Legally held 870 shotguns are now contraband and the government knows who owns them. Turn them in, mate, or the police will be at your door to seize them and arrest you for failing to do so.


12 posted on 08/25/2017 5:52:26 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: marktwain

Prohibited doesn’t actually mean prohibited. Yet another peculiarity of Australian weapons laws. Words don’t always have their standard meanings.

Quite a few ‘prohibited weapons’ can be possessed by people under what it referred to as a “Governor In Council” exemption.

For example in my state, swords can be possessed by twenty different categories of person.


13 posted on 08/25/2017 5:53:54 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Fascinating. Might be worth an article.

Thanks.


14 posted on 08/25/2017 1:26:55 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: naturalman1975
swords can be possessed by twenty different categories of person.

You guys have sword control????

15 posted on 08/25/2017 1:33:16 PM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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To: NorthMountain
As the article indicates, a lot of weapons are controlled in Australia, yes. That includes swords - and for that matter, knives.

That's one reason why gun control has never really been seen as a big deal here in the way it is in the US. Weapons have been controlled in English common law for centuries. The US Second Amendment is unusual - that's what make it special.

The Bill of Rights of 1689 which applied in England, spread to all of Britain with the Union, and then spread throughout the British Empire granted:

That the subjects which are Protestants may have arms for their defence suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law;

This was the Bill of Rights that applied in the American colonies until independence - when your own Bill of Rights it was written, it was made much broader.

But the basic principle in England, Britain, and the Empire was always that the law could set limits on weapons possession.

Guns are not fundamentally treated as a special case. They are just another weapon.

Now, the 'rules' for knives are very broad, and things get less broad as a weapon is considered more dangerous - although sometimes, you get some odd anomalies there.

The principle of the law is meant to be that people who have a reason to own a weapon can do so - but you are supposed to have a reason. And that's how it works in our system, and has for three hundred years.

America did it differently and that's perfectly fine.

16 posted on 08/25/2017 4:15:00 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: marktwain
http://www.gazette.vic.gov.au/gazette/Gazettes2014/GG2014G023.pdf#page=82 will take you to the current Governor in Council exemptions in my state for swords, daggers, and crossbows. Other states will have similar things.

It's one of the things that make the laws in Australia confusing at times - they have built in exceptions that modify them and often soften them but which aren't initially obvious.

17 posted on 08/25/2017 4:17:51 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

“For example in my state, swords can be possessed by twenty different categories of person.”

What are they?

L


18 posted on 08/25/2017 4:20:58 PM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: naturalman1975

Thank you.

L


19 posted on 08/25/2017 4:28:02 PM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: Lurker

I’ll simplify the list:

Museum employees or volunteers.
Theatre company employees or volunteers
Members of the Australian Defence Force
Members of foreign military’s stationed in Australia
Former members of the Australian Defence Force
Former members of foreign militaries
Instructors in the Australian Defence Force Cadets
Members of certain Lodges or Orders
People who inherited swords legally held
Members of the Scout Association
People involved in Highland dancing, or pipe bands
Members in certain other forms of dancing
People involved in the sport of fencing
Sikhs
Members of certain historical re-enactment groups
Members of sword collecting groups
Martial Arts instructors
Marital Arts students

(I know that is 18, not 20 - but the way it is laid out in the GIC exemptions is as 20 categories - because most of the categories refer to over 18 year olds, and then there is a catch all category of people under 18 who are part of the group - and for some reason one group of historical re-enactors have their own separate category, rather than being lumped in with all the others (I suspect they were initially given an exemption and all the other groups then asked for the same exemption, and it was easier to set up a second category that could be easily expanded but the initial one remained in place).

There are actually others who can hold swords as well (such as RSL members (Returned and Services League - Australia’s largest veterans group - but as they can hold a lot more than just swords (especially historical military weapons on display), they are not included in the sword specific listing)


20 posted on 08/25/2017 4:34:45 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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