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The U.S. Navy's Greatest Enemy Might Be Exhaustion
The National Interest ^ | August 21, 2017 | Dave Majumdar

Posted on 08/22/2017 11:24:02 AM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: Mariner

According to the article, it’s 20% deployment. One 7 month in 36 months. Or, if I understand it correctly, 29 months not deployed and 7 deployed over a span of 3 years. Doesn’t sound exhausting to me.


21 posted on 08/22/2017 11:51:54 AM PDT by Avalon Memories (The question about fighting back is not what average people can to do, but how to do we do it?)
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To: nickcarraway

That’s the caption that came along with the photo.


22 posted on 08/22/2017 11:52:27 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: DoodleDawg

“Yes, because the Navy that won at Tripoli or Midway were not exhausted at all. “

Because they are not needed to accomplish the current mission assignments.


23 posted on 08/22/2017 11:52:45 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Vlad The Inhaler

Try a couple of weeks of 4 and 8 watchstanding at sea sometime.


24 posted on 08/22/2017 11:53:51 AM PDT by Seruzawa (FABOL - F*** A Bunch Of Liberals)
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To: SoConPubbie

“Mighty suspicious pattern there given the state of the relationship with China and North Korea!”

Just what I was thinking.


25 posted on 08/22/2017 11:53:56 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime "humanity.)
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To: Mariner
Have you ever been to sea on a warship?

Yes.

Have you ever done a 50 mile forced march in full gear load out with no pogey-bait stops?


26 posted on 08/22/2017 11:55:17 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (We were Trumpin' before Trumpin' was cool.....)
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To: dblshot

When I was at sea it was a rotation of 3s.

1-1-1-32.

Eight on, eight off, eight on, 32 off.

The 32 off included all training, cleaning, maintenance etc.

And that was the best possible option.

Port and Starboard (12-12) being the normal rotation...fitting training and cleaning into the 12 off.


27 posted on 08/22/2017 11:57:50 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Avalon Memories

“Doesn’t sound exhausting to me.”

Try it.


28 posted on 08/22/2017 11:59:09 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime "humanity.)
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To: rlmorel

DOUBLE AMEN (IN RED)


29 posted on 08/22/2017 12:02:35 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)""If the earth were flat, cats would have pushed everything over the edge by now")
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To: nickcarraway

That makes sense. We’ve never in history expected our soldiers, sailors and airmen to work as hard as today’s snowflakes have to work. Shoot, the Marines who island-hopped the Pacific 75 years ago had it easy compared to this generation.


30 posted on 08/22/2017 12:03:27 PM PDT by lurk
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To: Mariner

Much bigger ship dude, you were lucky.


31 posted on 08/22/2017 12:04:27 PM PDT by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: Avalon Memories

“Doesn’t sound exhausting to me.”

That’s for ships based in the states. They deploy on a WestPac once every three years for 7 months.

In between they are under weigh at 0600 Monday, returning 1600 Friday for about a year. And just before deployment they are out for 3-4 consecutive 2-week periods for “Sea trials”

The rest of the time they are alongside the pier doing training and maintenance with occasional trips out...every month or so for 4-5 days.

HOWEVER, for those ships that are forward deployed...like the ships mentioned in this article...they maintain a 50% at sea pace. It’s a 4 month rotation or so.

Excruciating.


32 posted on 08/22/2017 12:04:34 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Seruzawa

Hell, do it for 70-100 days at a time! lol


33 posted on 08/22/2017 12:05:28 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Uncle Sam 911

>How long before Trump gets his 355 vessel Navy going? Nothing in this budget for it. Why is sequester still in place too?

Might want to ask those Antifa supporting GOP scumbags.


34 posted on 08/22/2017 12:07:26 PM PDT by JohnyBoy
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

[ How does a Navy destroyer get hit in the rear by a tanker ]

The McCain was rammed port side - IIRC looked slightly astern of mid-ship.


35 posted on 08/22/2017 12:07:33 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ....)
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To: Vlad The Inhaler

AHHH!

A jarhead.

You guys get to sleep at sea, even though it’s hot bunking. The rest of the time you’re sleeping or in the chow line.

That is far from a sailors load at sea.


36 posted on 08/22/2017 12:07:59 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Seruzawa

Try a couple of weeks of 4 and 8 watchstanding at sea sometime.
= = = = = = = = = = = =
As a Radioman on an LST I had set up 12-12 at sea and Watchstanders Liberty in port.
(Had to supply 1 RM to ship that took our ‘in port watch’ usually gave them a couple of non designated strikers)

Worked out well as ‘they’ didn’t expect anything out of us for the 12 off.

Reason I did that was lack of Qualified Morse watch standers.


37 posted on 08/22/2017 12:08:31 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)""If the earth were flat, cats would have pushed everything over the edge by now")
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To: dblshot

“you were lucky”

Except we’d do it for 100 days at a time.


38 posted on 08/22/2017 12:09:15 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: xrmusn

This radioman did time on an LHA.

Among other billets.


39 posted on 08/22/2017 12:11:05 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: nickcarraway

Whip it back into shape with rum and the lash. They’ve already got the other.


40 posted on 08/22/2017 12:11:41 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Tyranny can hide within decorum.)
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