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Trump’s Afghan Plan ‘Will Have the U.S. Not Winning, but Not Losing’
Breitbart ^ | 08/21/17 | Edwin Mora

Posted on 08/21/2017 12:11:09 PM PDT by Enlightened1

U.S. President Donald Trump’s Afghanistan war plan is expected to include an increase in the number of American troops fighting terrorists in the country, prompting some analysts to suggest the “new strategy” is only an extension of the failed status quo.

Taking the pulse of Trump’s Afghanistan strategy among Washington’s mainstream media, Mike Allen, the co-founder of both Politico and Axios media, determined that the war will remain a stalemate under the president’s plan.

“The plan will have the U.S. not winning, but not losing,” he wrote.

U.S. Gen. John Nicholson, the top commander of American and NATO forces in Afghanistan, told Congress in February that the coalition has been facing a “stalemate” in the war-ravaged country for years.

Echoing the top U.S. general, the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction (SIGAR), an American watchdog agency, at the end of last month also described the current situation in the war-ravaged country as a “stalemate.”

Citing the U.S. forces in Afghanistan, SIGAR noted that “as of May 15, 2017, the struggle between the Afghan government and insurgents remains a stalemate.”

The United States has been fighting the war in Afghanistan since October 2001 at a significant cost of blood and treasure — an estimated $714 billion as well as 2,257 U.S. service members killed and 20,257 others injured.

Despite the U.S. taxpayer investment in Afghanistan over nearly 16 years, the Taliban is stronger, al-Qaeda continues to operate in the country, and the Islamic State (ISIS/ISIL) has established a presence.

Security conditions significantly deteriorated after former President Barack Obama declared the U.S. combat mission in Afghanistan over at the end of 2014, a move that fueled a Taliban resurgence.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; not; trump; winning
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We are not planning to win.....

Can you say Vietnam 2.0???

Have to admit this is an extremely disappointing decision.

1 posted on 08/21/2017 12:11:09 PM PDT by Enlightened1
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If the Russians weren't brutal enough to do it, I don't think we'll do it either.
2 posted on 08/21/2017 12:13:24 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney
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To: Enlightened1

The most important part(s) of Trump’s plan will be what he can’t say.


3 posted on 08/21/2017 12:13:34 PM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Enlightened1

What is our stated objective in Afghanistan?


4 posted on 08/21/2017 12:13:50 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Enlightened1

What’s he going to say, let’s withdraw completely? I think you’ll see a different fight.


5 posted on 08/21/2017 12:15:38 PM PDT by nikos1121 (Let's get Newt in there to help...)
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To: Enlightened1

If the plan is, indeed, to increase troop levels, Trump has some ‘splainin’ to do tonight.


6 posted on 08/21/2017 12:15:46 PM PDT by be-baw (still seeking...)
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To: Jim 0216

At the beginning or now?


7 posted on 08/21/2017 12:15:51 PM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: Enlightened1

Please explain why Breitbart is sourcing stories from fake news politico and axios?


8 posted on 08/21/2017 12:16:22 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (We must never shut up. Covfefe: A great dish served piping hot!)
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“The plan will have the U.S. not winning, but not losing,”

Wrong. This was Obama’s plan. Just as in Iraq, when adults take over the Afghanistan theatre, we will win.


9 posted on 08/21/2017 12:16:30 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (Morning in America Again, again.)
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U.S. President Donald Trump’s Afghanistan war plan is expected to include...

Rule one in Hand Wringing 101:

1. Wait until the president lays the policy out, and explains why he has chosen this policy.

10 posted on 08/21/2017 12:16:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Exempting Trump and his team, our media and government have adopted the Zoolander management style.)
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To: equaviator

Oh you mean the fact that we are continue to do the same thing over and over again and expect different results?

That’s called insanity.


11 posted on 08/21/2017 12:17:17 PM PDT by Enlightened1
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Mike Allen, the co-founder of both Politico and Axios media, determined

I'm not sure why anyone would keep reading after this point. Perhaps the next quote was from President Kim of North Korea.

12 posted on 08/21/2017 12:17:28 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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Betsy Devos brother Erik Prince was disinvited to the meeting after Bannon got axed. I don’t know if his plan was the solution

You can’t win in Afghanistan.Russia showed us that. We should know it by now.


13 posted on 08/21/2017 12:18:09 PM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: CincyRichieRich

someone is giving Axios information. I have seen it multiple times.

So if they are right about this announcement will you start to watch what they are saying?

Probably not.


14 posted on 08/21/2017 12:19:54 PM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: Jim 0216

A question no one can or WILL answer.

Stop/slow down poppy production or increase it? Pay off the Taliban or starve them? Demoralize our troops more or increase their strength through realistic ROE’s??

Lot’s of opinions, few facts.


15 posted on 08/21/2017 12:20:38 PM PDT by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)
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To: Enlightened1

How will increasing troops in that s###hole make america great again?


16 posted on 08/21/2017 12:21:58 PM PDT by proust (Since a politician never believes what he says, he is quite surprised to be taken at his word.)
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Erik Prince on Afghanistan Strategy: Why Would ‘More Troops and More Money’ Work After 16 Years?

http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2017/08/21/prince-afghanistan-strategy-troops-money-work-16-years


17 posted on 08/21/2017 12:22:57 PM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: Enlightened1

Nobody wins in Afghanistan.
Alexander the Great couldn’t conquer it 2350 years ago, Genghis Khan gave up, the Brits gave up, the Russian’s gave up. It’s not worth the effort and the Afghanis don’t anyone there. We should cut our losses, kill as many Taliban as is possible as a punitive act, and then just abandon it.


18 posted on 08/21/2017 12:24:01 PM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: nikos1121

I see you like the never ending state of war.

We originally went into Afghanistan to get Osama Bin Laden. He is dead, and we are still in a state of war over there.

Do you want the United State to take over Afghanistan?

Do you know that country is known for where Empires die for never ending wars.

So how many years do you want to see Patriot Americans die over there? How many Trillions of Dollars do you want to send to Afghanistan?

What another 15 years?

How about 50 more years?

How about a 100 more years?


19 posted on 08/21/2017 12:25:11 PM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Jim 0216
What is our stated objective in Afghanistan?

To get Bin Laden. Who was living quite comfortably in our "ally" Pakistan's territory.

President Trump inherited an impossible mess. Obama had the perfect opportunity to leave when Bin Laden was killed "mission accomplished" and all that.

Since that didn't happen, what can one conclude? Somebody must be profiting handsomely for the war (the contractors?) and Afghanistan must have resources we want.

If there were a way to do it, I'd be all for giving it back to the Taliban and let them kill ISIS influences.....and keep the nutcases out of the US.

Just my silly opinion.

20 posted on 08/21/2017 12:25:41 PM PDT by grania (Deplorable and Proud of It!)
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