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A man of his times ...
1 posted on 08/19/2017 9:38:22 PM PDT by 11th_VA
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2 posted on 08/19/2017 9:41:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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Hard to believe the Guardian would publish this.

Oct 31 1517.


5 posted on 08/19/2017 9:54:50 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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6 posted on 08/19/2017 10:12:11 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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Yeah ask that to the peasants whose murder he advocated he was a tool of the Princes to gain power over the people and the emperor. Huge schmuck.


7 posted on 08/19/2017 10:14:28 PM PDT by The Cuban (again Freaking French illegal immigrabta,)
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Of course the Reformation era Protestants like Luther et al., once ascendant throughout Northern Europe, were hardly proponents of religious toleration when it came to followers of the old religion, but viciously and cruelly outlawed Catholicism. Even when religious toleration became a thing with Locke and later the French Revolution, they didn’t want to give religious toleration to Catholics. The American revolutionaries were somewhat unique among the Enlightenment people in eschewing this anti-Catholic hypocrisy.


9 posted on 08/20/2017 3:39:35 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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The real issue for today, which the leftist writer will not mention, is where is the Islamic Martin Luther. Because that religion is still burning people at the stake and is screaming for reform.
I was shocked by the silence, intellectually fraudulent.


10 posted on 08/20/2017 5:01:55 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (It doesn't matter who votes for whom, it only matters who counts the votes - Joe Stalin)
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What Luther did in the 95 theses ... was to tap into a deep vein of alienation .... Luther struck a chord with a congregation that felt exploited and ignored: on the one hand, fleeced to pay for lavish basilicas in Rome ... and on the other, in the secular world, seeing the age-old ways on which their livelihoods depended overturned by the rise of a money economy.

Replace "congregation" with "Conservatives" and "Rome" with our "(local/state/fed) governments" - and you have a sense of what Germany's congregation of regular folk must have felt and why they embraced Luther.

11 posted on 08/20/2017 5:11:23 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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Luther makes Hitler look like a piker when it comes to spreading evil,lies,death, and destruction.


15 posted on 08/20/2017 6:08:02 AM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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I have a bad feeling about this thread.

We already have someone who played the Hitler card.

This could get both funny and ugly.


24 posted on 08/20/2017 10:16:09 AM PDT by Luircin
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Jews ain’t joining the fête.


25 posted on 08/20/2017 10:20:02 AM PDT by Yaelle (We have a Crisis of Information in this country. Our enemies hold the megaphone.)
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There are gonna be Signs in the Sky tomorrow!

Be ready to hear the claim that MARY caused it all!

39 posted on 08/20/2017 2:15:18 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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It certainly was not down to the originality of his theological arguments. Not a single one was new. All had been aired before, some by saints, many by those branded heretics by Rome for their trouble, their lives snuffed out on pyres in public squares as casually as the candles on its gilded altars.

What Luther and the other Reformers sought to do was actually reforming or returning the organized church back to its original Scriptural basis.

• Jaroslav Pelikan (Lutheran, later Eastern Orhodox), The Riddle of Roman Catholicism (New York: Abingdon Press, 1959), also found:

    "Recent research on the Reformation entitles us to sharpen it and say that the Reformation began because the reformers were too catholic in the midst of a church that had forgotten its catholicity..." 

    “The reformers were catholic because they were spokesmen for an evangelical tradition in medieval catholicism, what Luther called "the succession of the faithful." The fountainhead of that tradition was Augustine (d. 430). His complex and far-reaching system of thought incorporated the catholic ideal of identity plus universality, and by its emphasis upon sin and grace it became the ancestor of Reformation theology. … All the reformers relied heavily upon Augustine. They pitted his evangelical theology against the authority of later church fathers and scholastics, and they used him to prove that they were not introducing novelties into the church, but defending the true faith of the church.”

    “...To prepare books like the Magdeburg Centuries they combed the libraries and came up with a remarkable catalogue of protesting catholics and evangelical catholics, all to lend support to the insistence that the Protestant position was, in the best sense, a catholic position.

    Additional support for this insistence comes from the attitude of the reformers toward the creeds and dogmas of the ancient catholic church. The reformers retained and cherished the doctrine of the Trinity and the doctrine of the two natures in Christ which had developed in the first five centuries of the church….” 

    “If we keep in mind how variegated medieval catholicism was, the legitimacy of the reformers' claim to catholicity becomes clear. (Pelikan, pp. 46-47)

    "Substantiation for this understanding of the gospel came principally from the Scriptures, but whenever they could, the reformers also quoted the fathers of the catholic church. There was more to quote than their Roman opponents found comfortable." (Pelikan 48-49). More Here


52 posted on 08/20/2017 7:16:06 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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NOT!


57 posted on 08/20/2017 7:57:07 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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