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To The Press, The Pols, And The Rest (Charlottesville)
Market-Ticker ^ | August 16, 2017 | Karl Denniger

Posted on 08/16/2017 5:54:12 PM PDT by Wolfie

To The Press, The Pols, And The Rest

Let me say this just one more time:

That someone is a Neo-Nazi, a White Supremacist, KKK member or racist does not render them bereft of the First Amendment. Just as being a member of BLM or the Antifa does not render them bereft of the First Amendment.

It is not acceptable, legal or excusable to meet speech by any such person with violence.

Period.

To suggest, state, or advocate that such is the case, or to promote the premise that violence is an appropriate remedy for speech you find vile and outrageous is to declare civil war, because there are others who will likely find your speech vile and outrageous and by your statement you have made the claim that just punishment for speech you deem vile is to be found at the hands of a mob.

The press and now lawmakers are openly advocating for the complete breakdown of civil society -- they are stating by the droves that violence in response to mere speech that one finds offensive yet has the protection of the First Amendment is not only worthy of said violence the person uttering same is not worthy of having their assailants prosecuted or the protection and investigation of the police forces to interdict violence intended for or served upon them.

These people are explicitly refusing to call on the carpet Governor McAuliffe and everyone in the chain of command from the Charlottesville PD upward who were involved in any way in intentionally funneling opposing protesters into each other, knowing that some of them were armed and then allowed said PD to sit back and withdraw when violence occurred.

Let me remind you that not only did the "alt-right" people have a permit the city attempted to revoke it and their action was struck down by a Federal Judge who granted an injunction against the city. The organizers not only requested and received the promise of public law enforcement support a judge signed an order demanding same -- an order that was then intentionally disobeyed by everyone from McAuliffe on down and, as a direct and proximate result, multiple deaths and myriad injuries occurred.

In fact these same members of the press and lawmakers, who I have now lost count of, are in fact stating that it is perfectly acceptable for the police to intentionally ignore persons initiating and committing violence against those who speak in a way that someone finds offensive, and even worse, to intentionally foment violent confrontations between these groups due to their direct actions and deliberate inactions, and further it is completely acceptable for all of the above law enforcement and civil officials to ignore the lawful orders of a Federal Judge.

May I remind said members of the press, politicians and others that their speech is often found offensive by someone, and that if they advocate for and promote this rank lawlessness and blatantly unconstitutional behavior they will have nobody but themselves to blame when, not if, the nation erupts into violence on a level not seen in America since the 1860s and their homes, businesses and entire cities are sacked by persons who are aggrieved by their mere speech.

I have never in my life believed -- until today -- that we would see such an event in this nation again.

Today I fully expect it to happen and when this outcome occurs it will lay at the feet of the press and lawmakers.

There has only been one person thus far -- President Trump -- with the balls to make the statement in public that violence in response to speech is never acceptable. For this you excoriate him.

He's right, you're wrong, and your course of action is begging for the literal destruction of our society.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: charlottesville; denninger; ticker

1 posted on 08/16/2017 5:54:12 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie

Yup and weaselly GOP cowards are afraid of being labeled “racist” if they don’t kow-tow to the Antifa Communists and the fake news media.

Oh wait - they are. Their abandoning Trump was high treason.


2 posted on 08/16/2017 5:57:36 PM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: Wolfie

There you have it. Right there!

Either the first amendment applies to everyone. Or it applies to no one. And if that’s the case, then there will be war.

Either all people are allowed to speak without fear of being violently attacked. Or no one is. And if that’s the case, there will be war.

Either there is actual truth in the world and all media and politicians respect the need to speak the truth. Or there is no truth in the world. And if that’s the case, there will be war.


3 posted on 08/16/2017 6:06:42 PM PDT by KyCats
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To: KyCats

Black people who were never slaves are fighting white people who were never Nazis over a confederate statue erected by democrats, because democrats can’t stand their own history anymore and somehow it’s Trumps fault?


4 posted on 08/16/2017 6:26:53 PM PDT by slapshot ( Speaker Ryan is a sober and less tan version of John Boehner)
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To: slapshot

Perfect description of what is happening


5 posted on 08/16/2017 6:46:40 PM PDT by McGavin999 ("The press is impotent when it abandons itself to falsehood."Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Wolfie

Bumping for sanity and the rule of law.


6 posted on 08/16/2017 7:37:47 PM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: Wolfie

Thanks for this post.


7 posted on 08/16/2017 7:46:54 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: goldstategop

The entire thing is just despicable and I’m telling you the media and the GOP live in their own little bubble just like they did during the campaign.
I’ve heard from a few people today who had no idea American landmarks were being torn down because they are considered racist symbols. I’m telling you there aren’t too many people who are supporting this nonsense. If this is the platform and strategy that Democrats want to use that’s fine let them go ahead, and if the dumb GOP want to jump in the start beating the drum of identity politics and calling everyone racist they can go ahead too, but they’re going to be on the losing end.


8 posted on 08/16/2017 7:47:15 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: KyCats

The latest twist by the left is to declare “hate speech”, especially speech by White Supremacists and Neo-Nazis, as imminently dangerous (advocating slavery or genocide), and thus the use of force is simply preventative self defense, and is thus to be condoned.

Perhaps they never looked up the Supreme Court decision that ordered a city to issue a parade permit to the KKK some years ago.

Or perhaps these leftist thugs just want a civil war.


9 posted on 08/16/2017 11:23:11 PM PDT by Mack the knife
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