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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; Plummz

Terrorism in not just a Muslim thing. There have been countless acts of domestic terrorism in America. Timothy McVeigh was a terrorist and his act was terrorism. The loon who murdered 50+ people in a gay nightclub was a terrorist. Bill Ayers is a terrorist. That guy who murdered 5 Dallas police was a terrorist.

How much time do you need for it to be “premeditated”? Though you are right intent matters, I think 1 second is more than enough time. depending on the motive. If he got into the car with the intention to ram political protestors regardless of which side he was on or which side he was targeting, it is terrorism. If he was just driving by, saw the protest and said to himself “I’m gonna get ‘em”, it is premeditation. It could only be an accident if it was truly unintentional. Supposing he was driving by and got pelted with rocks and other objects then it may be partially mitigated under the law as a “crime of passion”, which doesn’t in my book mitigate the moral failing one whit that is just a legal technicality. On the other side, fairly or not, if he was at the protest on foot and was heading home before deciding (for whatever reason) to ram into the crowd then I am sure the prosecutors would call it terror and assign motive to the fact that he was involved in the protest. But it wouldn’t be any less of an act of terror if he was motivated by an attempt to generate a political change be it 1 second or 1 year of plotting.

Trying to violently punish innocent people for expressing their political beliefs (no matter how vile their opinions may be) falls within the definition. Just my opinion of course.


60 posted on 08/13/2017 1:55:33 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: monkeyshine; Plummz
How much time do you need for it to be “premeditated”?

It's dumb to even ask this question. You do not even know if he intended to even harm anyone, let alone that he had the essential mental idea in his head that differentiates normal murder with terroristic murder.

This is all dumb speculation without any evidence whatsoever that this was terrorism, when all the most simpler explanations revolve around the fact that it was basically a warzone.

We ought not give in to the media's dumb memes. They had this out even before they knew the ethnicity of the driver. They were very lucky it wasn't an Arab who simply took a wrong turn.

Mind you, I'm not insulting you here or Plummz, or anyone else for that matter. Everyone is just wrapped up in these speculations for no good reason whatsoever, except that the media, Democrats and Republicans decided that this was their narrative before they even knew anyone died.

BTW, it seems to be confirmed that the girl who died was the one who was rushing in to bash the car with her compatriots. She got killed because she ran to the rear of his car and got taken for a ride as he reversed.

Good riddance!

61 posted on 08/13/2017 2:00:33 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: monkeyshine

Using an example of a muslim terrorist as a reason why terrorism is not just a muslim thing is the kind of straw man argument that is allowed to go unchallenged in today’s discourse.

The “loon who murdered 50+ people in a gay nightclub” was a muslim.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/12/florida-authorities-say-multiple-people-have-been-shot-at-orlando-nightclub.html

JoMa


63 posted on 08/13/2017 2:12:34 AM PDT by joma89
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