Let's Be Clear, The Car-Ramming Incident was not "Terrorism."

08/12/2017 | Myself

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

How much time do you need for it to be “premeditated”?

It's dumb to even ask this question. You do not even know if he intended to even harm anyone, let alone that he had the essential mental idea in his head that differentiates normal murder with terroristic murder.

This is all dumb speculation without any evidence whatsoever that this was terrorism, when all the most simpler explanations revolve around the fact that it was basically a warzone.

We ought not give in to the media's dumb memes. They had this out even before they knew the ethnicity of the driver. They were very lucky it wasn't an Arab who simply took a wrong turn.

Mind you, I'm not insulting you here or Plummz, or anyone else for that matter. Everyone is just wrapped up in these speculations for no good reason whatsoever, except that the media, Democrats and Republicans decided that this was their narrative before they even knew anyone died.

BTW, it seems to be confirmed that the girl who died was the one who was rushing in to bash the car with her compatriots. She got killed because she ran to the rear of his car and got taken for a ride as he reversed.

Good riddance!

[rdcbn]

it seems to me that the guys windshield had already been shattered by Antifa protesters as well as having the exterior of the car vandalized by Antifa presumably trying to break into the car

If the guy's windshield were broken there is no way he could see out, which would tend to explain the fact that he rear ended two cars.

[joma89]

Using an example of a muslim terrorist as a reason why terrorism is not just a muslim thing is the kind of straw man argument that is allowed to go unchallenged in today’s discourse.

The “loon who murdered 50+ people in a gay nightclub” was a muslim.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/12/florida-authorities-say-multiple-people-have-been-shot-at-orlando-nightclub.html

JoMa

[JohnyBoy]

>The entire “protest” is suspicious. Notice the pics of many “White supremacists” holding Nazi flags just out of the package from Amazon...complete with fold marks. Did they just become Nazis this morning? Or is this all a Soros setup?

Soros certainly paid them to show up.

[JohnyBoy]

>What kind of idiot would think running over people would be a good idea? What could they possibly accomplish by such a loser act? Bizarre.

Could be he just wanted to leave but Antifa always blocks traffic for fun when the cops let them run wild. This whole thing might be road rage.

[JohnyBoy]

>A good question would be “why were leftist rioters not swept from the street by law enforcement when they became violent?”

Because they were there to beat up the Neo-nazis and the police where helping them.

[JohnyBoy]

>Here’s a good frontal video of the incident: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Weg3fP0lZmE Notice everyone is already armed with bats. That one girl, who looks like she was the most critically injured, actually charged his car with a baseball bat after the initial ram. She took a ride with him as he backed up, and her hip was crushed on that truck as he was driving in reverse. You see she’s bleeding pretty good after that.

Wow, that really does look like self defense.

[newnhdad]

it’s just a game to these people.. wearing helmets, carrying bats banging on drums and complaining when people fight back..
All this leads back to the empty, pointless vitriol the democrats spew all day long. I don’t remember this outrage when an armed Bernie supporter was using republican members of congress as target practice.

[blueplum]

there’s a video linked on another thread, saw it earlier, where it looks like of those who were run over, at least 6, one girl, swarmed behind the car with baseball bats/sticks beating on the back of it after the frontal crash. Dressed in black iirc? The driver reversed back into them and on back down the street. When the driver was going forward/crashing into the convertible, it looks like there was the convertible and another car in front of the convertible, both moving verrry slowly. I don’t think he hit the car at 50mph as people have said - maybe 30/?

Just prior to the crash, the crowd was chanting, who’s streets? our streets. Maybe somebody else can say whether the crowd was harassing the convertible and other car, also

(I’d be interested to know if the kid was in a prior fight, and came back?)

[GraceG]

The entire “protest” is suspicious. Notice the pics of many “White supremacists” holding Nazi flags just out of the package from Amazon...complete with fold marks. Did they just become Nazis this morning? Or is this all a Soros setup?

Soros certainly paid them to show up.

All the flag have folds in them, the woman has a weird snowflake tattoo on her arm too. The NAZI guy is wearing "weekend yuppie clothing" not something you would expect a Michigan Chicago NAZI to be wearing.

Invasion of the "Amazon.com NAZIs"

[Vendome]

He’s been here a while and a good Freeper...

[Fresh Wind]

The had the baseball bats because they were on their way to a baseball game, and they just happened to find the demonstration by pure chance.

[GraceG]

[SpaceBar]

I agree. Looks staged. Be interesting to know those persons’ identities.

[kearnyirish2]

That’s right; when the BLM-type shot those cops in Dallas the left wouldn’t use the “T-word” - and unlike this incident, there was NO CHANCE that was unintended.

[kanawa]

a terror attack by #whitesupremacists"

What you say, Marco? There was more than one person in the car?

[Yogafist]

It is an act of terrorism. All of those people who showed up with bats, bottles, rocks, helmets and face masks were there to prevent people they don’t agree with from expressing an opinion. They were there as an act of violence to frighten people and to suppress free speech. Isn’t that what terrorists do, attack people they don’t agree with?

[jonrick46]

Why can’t I play that video? All I get is a black rectangle on a white screen, even after I logged in.

[fruser1]

The problem with your argument is that using violence for political ends is considered terrorism.

It seems to me that would put antifa in the terrorist camp.

Note there have been investigations following up concerning prior protests where lefty counter protestors have shown up to kick ass and the police have arrested the correct perpetrators.

So I agree and sympathize with your concern that an investigation could be abused to target the wrong folks, but it is not necessarily the case it'll work out that way.

If it is it'll be out there for all to see, just like competing investigations of Trump and Hilary.

[Vermont Lt]

It was first degree murder.