Posted on 08/10/2017 2:34:18 PM PDT by Red Badger
Eighty feet below the streets of lower Manhattan, a Federal Reserve vault protected by armed guards contains about 6,200 tons of gold.
Or doesnt.
The Fed tells visitors its basement vault holds the worlds biggest official gold stash and values it at $240 billion to $260 billion.
But no one at all can be sure the gold is really there except Fed employees with access, said Ronan Manly, a precious-metals analyst at gold dealer BullionStar in Singapore. If it is all there, he said, the central bank has never in its history provided any proof.
Mr. Manly is among gold aficionados who wonder if the bank is hiding something about what its hiding.
Other theorists suspect the gold beneath the New York Feds headquarters at 33 Liberty St. may be gold-plated fakes. Some conspiracy-minded investors think the Fed has been secretly leasing out the gold to manipulate prices.
There has to have been a central bank spewing their gold into the market, said John Embry, an investment strategist for Sprott Asset Management in Toronto until 2014 who once managed its gold fund.
The gold price didnt act right during the time he was watching it and the likely explanation for the movement was Fed action, said Mr. Embry.
After this article was published, a Fed spokeswoman said the Fed doesnt own any of the gold housed at the New York Fed, which does not use it in any way for any purposes including loaning or leasing it out.
The Fed has been selective in giving details about the contents of the vault and in the past has said it cant comment on individual customer accounts due to confidentiality agreements.
Former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan said in a July interview: When you deposit your funds in a bank, should that bank make your account balances available to whomever asks?
Seeking a better glimpse inside the vault and at Fed procedures and records, The Wall Street Journal filed Freedom-of-Information requests with the New York Fed. Among the Journals findings, from a heavily redacted tour-guide manual provided by the Fed: Tour guides are informed that visitors are excitable and should be asked to please keep their voices down.
Three Fed staffers must be present when gold is moved or a compartment opened, even to change a lightbulb, and no attempts have been made to break in, documents state.
New York Fed President William Dudley told a March gathering in Queens, N.Y., that the fictional raid by drilling through from a subway tunnel in the 1995 movie Die Hard With a Vengeance was far-fetched.
The Fed gives some information about the vault on a website and offers tours. A guide on one tour gave some details: Inside is enough oxygen for a person to survive 72 hours, should someone get trapped; custodians wear magnesium shoe covers to help prevent injuries, should they drop 27-pound bars; the Fed charges $1.75 a bar to move gold but nothing to store it; most of the gold is owned by foreign governments.
Along with the foreign gold, the Feds Manhattan vault holds about 5% of Americas roughly $11 billion in gold reserves and coin, valued at the statutory rate of $42.22 per fine troy ounce, according to the U.S. Mint. The U.S. government keeps the rest in Denver, Fort Knox, Ky., and West Point, N.Y.
Elaborate theories build on what the Fed doesnt say about goings-on in its vaults 122 compartments.
It doesnt report when bars enter or leave and doesnt let in outsidersother than auditors and account holdersto count the bars or review records.
Visitors on vault tours see only a display sample and cant verify bars up close.
All you see is the front row of gold bars, said James Turk, co-founder of Goldmoney, a gold custodian. Theres no way of knowing how deep the chamber is or how many rows there are.
Mr. Turk, based in London, believes much of the gold has been hypothecated, or lent out to other parties, and then rehypothecated, or lent to multiple parties at once. In doing so, he says, central banks actually own less gold than people believe.
Some gold bugsinvestors bullish on the yellow metalthink the Fed secretly lends it out to suppress prices, partly to protect the dollars value. In theory, the Fed can feed gold into the market through swaps with other countries.
James McShirley, who owns Sulphur Lumber in Sulphur Springs, Ind., and has traded gold, believes investment banks, probably as agents for the Fed, act to lower prices when gold futures gain 1%. Its totally logical that in addition to maintaining artificially low interest rates, he said, it would be imperative to keep gold suppressed as an inflationary barometer.
Then theres the purity question. Mr. Turk said there are questions in gold circles as to whats in an actual bar. One theory, he said: They could be gold-plated tungsten, which would weigh almost the same.
I think the gold they have there is real gold, he said, but until you do random sampling you dont know for certain.
In a 2012 audit of U.S. gold at the Feds vault, the U.S. Mint and the Treasurys Office of Inspector General sent 367 samples to an independent lab for testing. All but three samples came back within 0.13% of the purity recorded by the government, within standard industry tolerance, according to the Mint and Treasury.
Since then, annual government audits of the Feds vault have inspected only the locks and joint seals on the compartments to check they havent been tampered with, a Mint spokesman said.
That isnt enough, said Peter Boehringer, founder of the German Precious Metals Society. The problem, he said, is the complete lack of a transparent, full, independent, external audit in the Fed´s vaults by a sworn-in auditor.
New legislation, nicknamed the Audit the Fed bill, could allow the Government Accountability Office to audit the Feds vault, said a spokesman for the bills Senate sponsor, Rand Paul (R., Ky.). GAO lawyers wouldnt speculate on the bills reach. Mr. Pauls spokesman said the Senator has arranged a personal visit to Fort Knox this fall.
Former U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, the senators father, has been outspoken about what he says is taxpayers need for more transparency about gold from the Fed. Even if you could walk into that vault and see a lot of gold, you wouldnt know whether its been loaned out or sold, he said. They havent convinced me that we have total control of it.
Write to Katy Burne at katy.burne@wsj.com
But you can't see it............................
John Cena’s gold.
In the early and mid eighties I worked a block below The Federal Reserve Bank in NYC. I saw them unloading gold bars. They don’t look like they do on tv. Theyre bigger in size and a dull almost bronze color. I remarked to a somewhat portly armed guard standing by that the whole thing didn’t look that secure. He said, “Pal, if you even get the thought in your head there twenty guns aimed at you right now that will drop you in a freakin’ heart beat’’. Trust me, the gold is there.
Germany recently finished the three-year transfer of gold that had been stored in New York. In my memory, it seems like it was a big deal on FR when it started.
I’m not sure they can see it either.
Curly’s Gold..........................(End of the movie)
Trust us. It’s there..........really..............Would the Fed lie?......................
Did you actually see the gold?....................
It was,stolen in Die Hard With A Vengeance!
Thanks, great post... I was always curious about the validity of this.
In Game of Thrones, Xaro Xhoan Daxos is the wealthiest man in Qarth (the greatest city that ever was, or will be). He has an impregnable vault filled with treasure and it is this tremendous treasure which gives him power and prestige within Qarth.
As Danaerys Targaryeon leaves Qarth, she gains access to his famous vault and finds that it is totally empty. His power and prestige rests upon a lie.
Hey! Massive spoiler alert!
You have ruined Game of Thrones for thousands!
Huh, and I thought Obama gave it all to the Iranians.
Maybe he just slipped them some hollowed out gold bars with tungsten slugs inside!.................
Geraldo Rivera to open the vault soon. LOL
If I was Trump I would schedule a visit to Fort Knox to see the gold.
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