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China’s debt surpasses 300 percent of GDP, IIF says, raising doubts over Yellen’s crisis remarks
CNBC ^ | 28 Jun 2017 | Silvia Amaro

Posted on 08/06/2017 8:10:08 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

China’s debt surpasses 300 percent of GDP, IIF says, raising doubts over Yellen’s crisis remarks

Silvia Amaro
Wednesday, 28 Jun 2017

Global debt has hit a record level in the first quarter of this year, mainly driven by emerging markets, raising questions of whether there will be another financial crisis in the near future.

Data from the Institute of International Finance showed that global debt reached $217 trillion in the first quarter of this year, or 327 percent of gross domestic product.

"The debt burden is not distributed evenly. Some countries/sectors have seen deleveraging while others have built up very high debt levels. For the latter, rising debt may create headwinds for long-term growth and eventually pose risks for financial stability," the IIF said in its Global Debt Monitor report on Tuesday.

On Tuesday, U.S. Fed Chair Janet Yellen told an audience in London that banks are in a "very much stronger" position and another financial crisis is unlikely "in our lifetime."

The 2008 financial crisis began with high indebtedness levels by U.S. households.

But Yellen's remarks aren't' consensual.

"I think Yellen's comment -- if I am interpreting it correctly -- is a huge hostage to fortune. The words Titanic and unsinkable spring to mind," Erik Jones, professor of international political economy at Johns Hopkins University, told CNBC via email.

Casrten Brzeski, senior economist at ING said that "high debt levels mean that the debt crisis has not been solved, yet. Neither in the US, nor in the Eurozone. Increasing debt levels in Asia and other emerging market economies also show that a structural change has not yet taken place."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 300percent; china; chinadebt; debt; economy; june2017; oldnews; redchina; socialismdoesntwork; trade

1 posted on 08/06/2017 8:10:09 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Jeff Head; Tainan; hedgetrimmer; Unam Sanctam; taxesareforever; Avenger; ...

P!


2 posted on 08/06/2017 8:10:49 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (dead parakeet + lost fishing gear = freep all day)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

But they have a 5 to 10% (what figures to believe?) growth rate to support it.


3 posted on 08/06/2017 8:16:36 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
The 2008 financial crisis began with high indebtedness levels by U.S. households.

Not entirely. The crisis was caused by a "bubble" in the American real estate market. The bubble was "popped" by a sudden spike in energy prices, which dried up the flow of capital necessary to keep the bubble expanded. The high indebtedness of many households made them vulnerable once the real estate bubble burst.

4 posted on 08/06/2017 8:17:23 PM PDT by henkster (Ask your favorite liberal to take the "Snowflake Challenge.")
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To: mrsmith

Some body is VERY busy cookin’ da books!


5 posted on 08/06/2017 8:18:17 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Here is the US for comparison.

Oh gee. What happened in 2008/2009? Who was in charge? Why so much debt?


6 posted on 08/06/2017 8:24:10 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: TigerLikesRooster

“Some countries/sectors have seen deleveraging while others have built up very high debt levels. For the latter, rising debt may create headwinds for long-term growth and eventually pose risks for financial stability,”

Hmmm. Which are we? And why? Who was in charge during the 2008/2009 period until 2016?


7 posted on 08/06/2017 8:27:00 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I really wonder if we in the US ever truly experienced Supply Side Economics.

We have been going further and further in debt for so long spending our grandkids' money that we're really just a bunch of Keynesians.

8 posted on 08/06/2017 8:41:17 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: ForYourChildren
Why so much debt?

Using interest bearing debt instruments (Federal Reserve notes) as currency requires an ever expanding amount of debt to prevent the attached interest from reducing the supply of currency as the interest is paid off and hence driving the economy into a deflationary death spiral.

An exponentially expanding amount of debt cannot end well. They are trying to find a way to impose negative interest rates on us since negative rates change the exponential growth to an exponential shrinkage and allows their system of debt-slavery to continue on (until we wise up.) They can't impose negative rates on us until they get rid of physical cash as we would simply remove our money currency from their banks if they tried.

Their savings of course will still earn positive rates of interest, but for us peons it is either negative interest rates or eventual run-away inflation. Math is a bitch but she don't back down, so - cashless society here we come.
9 posted on 08/06/2017 9:07:51 PM PDT by Garth Tater (Return to sound money and Constituional governance.)
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To: Garth Tater
either negative interest rates or eventual run-away inflation.

Or one leading to the other. I believe the plan is for hyper inflation, which will wipe away whole currencies - and their debts with them.

10 posted on 08/06/2017 9:26:32 PM PDT by BlackVeil ('The past is never dead. It's not even past.' William Faulkner)
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To: BlackVeil
which will wipe away whole currencies - and their debts with them.

The debt instruments, the Federal Reserve Notes, are backed by the Good Faith, assets and deadly force of the US govt. When the system crashes - either through hyper-inflation or through deflation if they can't keep growing the debt pile (the currency) fast enough - the banking cabal will not be the ones hurt. They were bailed out in the 2008 crash to the tune of many trillions of dollars shoved onto the Fedgov's credit card. They will be bailed out again. They own most of the decision makers in the govt and damn near all of the media. Their magic-money machine gives them great (almost unlimited) power and they won't release the reins without a fight.
11 posted on 08/06/2017 10:00:16 PM PDT by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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To: Garth Tater

I agree with every word you say. Concerning your final point, “without a fight.” There may be more than one fight going on. The inexorable forces of debt, inequality, conflict, squabbling over resources, etc. will tend toward war. During wartime, the state suddenly gains more powers, they can nationalise and levy taxes - do all sorts of things. They can wipe the currency and tell everyone to use a new one.

We may see another world war, in our lifetime, and the outcomes are impossible to calculate.


12 posted on 08/06/2017 11:36:35 PM PDT by BlackVeil ('The past is never dead. It's not even past.' William Faulkner)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

History shows us that an economy that is screwed, soon leads to a war.

SQUIRREL!


13 posted on 08/06/2017 11:38:26 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

stability to those bozos is their wallet fat from our taxes , shell game at best..


14 posted on 08/07/2017 2:41:10 AM PDT by aces
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Yellen is ignorant. She is someone whose career is the epitome of the Peter Principle (rising to your level of incompetence).

The Federal Reserve meeting records during the years the U.S. housing bubble was building have Yellen (head of the Fed bank at San Francisco) in denial, up to the end. And when she finally admitted the bubble she was in denial about the systemic risk it had to the whole financial system - until all she had been denying hit.

She was the last person in the world who should have been elevated to head the federal reserve.

Now she is in denial again.

With her record, if she says a = a, you better believe that a = b.


15 posted on 08/07/2017 7:14:46 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli
She is like a war-time propaganda news reader who says a victory is near even when enemy tanks are roaming around in her neighborhood.
16 posted on 08/07/2017 7:29:53 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (dead parakeet + lost fishing gear = freep all day)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Global debt has hit a record level in the first quarter of this year, mainly driven by emerging markets,

Who is giving them the money, and why?

17 posted on 08/07/2017 8:35:00 AM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building)
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To: Garth Tater

yup


18 posted on 08/07/2017 4:35:01 PM PDT by mylife (the roar of the masses could be farts)
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