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I don't think the American taxpayer has ever been taken for such a ride as we're being taken for on this debacle!
1 posted on 07/30/2017 3:56:21 PM PDT by Carbonsteel
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To: Carbonsteel

The Littoral Combat Ship is also a disaster of waste.

There are solutions such as the boat we are selling to Saudi Arabia but what is the Navy doing?

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/saudi-arabia-is-buying-the-littoral-combat-ship-the-u-s-1737749488


2 posted on 07/30/2017 4:01:30 PM PDT by lavaroise
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To: Carbonsteel

Iowa class destroyers? The Iowa class were battleships.


3 posted on 07/30/2017 4:01:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Carbonsteel

Cost per ship, if produced in the original numbers, would not have been so outrageous. But, producing only 3, the cost per ship is not a pretty picture.

But keep in mind these are really experimental platforms. We have rail gun technology now and rail guns need to go on a ship with the ability to produce A LOT of electricity. The Zumwalts can power a small city.


5 posted on 07/30/2017 4:05:47 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Islam: You have to just love a "religion" based on rape and sex slavery.)
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To: Carbonsteel

They were built for the rail gun


6 posted on 07/30/2017 4:06:56 PM PDT by Despot of the Delta
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7 posted on 07/30/2017 4:07:02 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Carbonsteel

There are cheaper shells available

https://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htart/articles/20170723.aspx?comments=Y

but yeah, nearly a million per round, seriously

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/each-round-for-the-uss-zumwalt-costs-800-000-and-the-n-1788765510


8 posted on 07/30/2017 4:07:38 PM PDT by lavaroise
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To: Carbonsteel
Iowa class DESTROYER

Uh-huh. SURE.

Friggin RIDICULOUS.

9 posted on 07/30/2017 4:09:16 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Carbonsteel
caused by the retirement of the Iowa-class destroyers

Iowa class destroyers? Hmmm...

Not sure I need to read anything the author wrote.

10 posted on 07/30/2017 4:10:31 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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To: Carbonsteel
Author Kyle Mizokami

Check out my new staple-gun, guys..! Bad-as$, huh..?!

15 posted on 07/30/2017 4:14:22 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Carbonsteel

just another gov’t project

remember next time you are at DMV - the DMV employees you see are the best ones.

and now translate that to everyone in gov’t


21 posted on 07/30/2017 4:23:46 PM PDT by vooch (America First)
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To: Carbonsteel

rant bait for FR’s armchair admirals.


22 posted on 07/30/2017 4:24:40 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie
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To: Carbonsteel

Pocket Battleship? LOL. It has almost no survivability against anything that hits it, a teeny crew means not much damage control manpower, it has nearly no armor, and has no weapons designed for ship to ship warfare. The only antiship rounds were cancelled because they cost 800 bucks a pop.

But yeah, other than that its a pocket battleship.


25 posted on 07/30/2017 4:33:51 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: Carbonsteel

It looks like it might have submarine capabilities in high seas.


28 posted on 07/30/2017 4:39:11 PM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Carbonsteel
put a pair of 8" guns on them and let missiles to the guided precision work
29 posted on 07/30/2017 4:40:43 PM PDT by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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To: Carbonsteel

” Designed in part to support amphibious landings by the U.S. Marine Corps, the Zumwalts were meant to make up for the lack of big-gun firepower caused by the retirement of the Iowa-class destroyers.”

Yeah, losing those Iowa class destroyers was a blow. /s

And yeah, losing an 80s update Iowa BB meant losing 9 sixteen inch rifles and 12 five inch 38s guns. So how does the Navy replace that? With a gee whiz electric gizmo stealth ship carrying two 155 guns. The Marines already have 155mm.

Bottom line, the navy has decided the USMC does not need fire support. They were forced to pay lip service to it by congress and that’s what they did.


30 posted on 07/30/2017 4:43:37 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: Carbonsteel
"Designed to attack targets far inland with precision-guided howitzer shells."

Hmmmm....I don't see any howitzers on that thing...

32 posted on 07/30/2017 4:59:47 PM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: Carbonsteel

boy this guy Don’t Know Jack ship about shit about ship... Iowa-class Destroyers ?

and I’m assuming he thinks it’s being derogatory to call the Zumwalt “pocket battleships”


38 posted on 07/30/2017 5:28:34 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Tophat9000)
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To: Carbonsteel

“I don’t think the American taxpayer has ever been taken for such a ride as we’re being taken for on this debacle!”

I take you’ve never heard of this thing called ‘welfare’?


59 posted on 07/31/2017 8:53:23 AM PDT by MeganC (Democrat by birth, Republican by default, conservative by principle.)
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