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License, Registration and Pronoun: Troopers Take Transgender Training (Vermont)
Seven Days ^ | JULY 19, 2017 | Alicia Freese

Posted on 07/19/2017 3:17:02 PM PDT by nickcarraway

In between shifts Monday afternoon, 13 Vermont State Police troopers, outfitted in beige and green, tentatively discussed their preferred pronouns.

"Bob," said Sgt. Bob Lucas. "Uh, 'he.'"

"I'm Steve. I go by 'he,'" said Trooper Steve DiGregorio, a youthful officer.

"My name is Andy," said Cpl. Andy Leise, the only one who seemed at ease during the exercise. "I like to be referred to as 'he.'"

Spoiler alert: All 13 were "cis" — identifying with the gender assigned to them at birth.

The officers sat in mismatched swivel chairs in the windowless office of a converted warehouse that serves as the Williston Barracks. Decorations in the room were sparse. A sign on the door in childish scrawl said "Blue Lives Matter, #VermontStatePolice."

The officers were taking a break from addressing domestic disputes and car crashes to participate in the Vermont State Police's first-ever transgender training, at the behest of their station commander, Lt. Garry Scott.

The freckled and friendly 17-year veteran of the force contacted the Pride Center of Vermont last June after a gunman killed 49 people at a gay nightclub in Orlando, Fla. Scott described the mass shooting as an "aha moment" that inspired him to bolster ties between his officers and the local LGBTQ community. He and Catarina Campbell — director of the Pride Center's SafeSpace program, which assists victims of violence and abuse — hatched the idea of transgender trainings.

(Scott couldn't remember how LGBTQ issues were addressed during his training, but, he said, "I probably snickered through most of it.")

Campbell, a Middlebury College grad and self-described "brown queer person," began the hourlong training by mentioning to the troopers that, "I almost wore gold combat boots today."

The officers seemed unsure of what to say.

Sans gold boots, Campbell still stood out in the room dominated by identically dressed white men with crew cuts. She had a pierced septum and an asymmetrical haircut: black and buzzed on one side, wavy purple and silver on the other. She wore a flowered dress and a black leather jacket.

Ebullient and eager to talk about feelings — "I am deeply appreciative of and grateful for this time with you," she told the troopers — Campbell would, eventually, get the taciturn crowd to open up.

After introductions, Campbell (preferred pronouns: she/her or they/them) read aloud several stats: 2017 is on pace to be the deadliest year ever for LGBTQ people, according to the New York City Anti-Violence Project, and 66 percent of LGBTQ people who have interacted with law enforcement reported that officers were "indifferent or hostile."

"That's what we're here together to change," Campbell said.

Lucas politely interjected. "We hate being lumped into those categories ... We resent those stats. We understand that they're real, but we resent it because we don't feel that way," he said. "I guess it was just a little bit disheartening to know that there's people out there feeling that way about us just because, obviously, we're wearing these uniforms."

A lanky officer sitting in the back corner chimed in with a question. "I haven't, in my two years here, encountered a situation where I had to investigate a hate-crime-related incident," he said. "And I was just curious, since you're working, I guess, more closely with the community, if you have stories of people coming to you saying, 'I was too afraid to make a report.'"

"That has happened," Campbell told him, and more than once.

The phone rang, and an officer left to attend to a two-car crash in Jericho. His colleagues continued grappling with gender-identity issues.

Traffic-stop data has consistently shown that troopers are more likely to pull over and cite people of color. As a result, the Vermont State Police have been working to root out racial bias within the ranks. Officers are required to record the race of whomever they pull over, but not their sexual orientation or gender identity. That's understandable, but it leaves the police and public without any way of quantifying law enforcement's potential bias toward LGBTQ people.

Even without data, one can safely assume that there's room for improvement in what's long been a hyper-masculine profession — particularly in light of the paucity of "out" officers. Capt. Ingrid Jonas, director of fair and impartial policing and community affairs for the Vermont State Police, said she isn't aware of any transgender officers or openly gay male officers among the 305-person force. Jonas participated in the training Monday.

Campbell showed the predominantly male group a video of a cop pulling over a transgender woman whose driver's license identified her as male. Rather than question the discrepancy, the officer casually asks whether she prefers to be called "sir" or "ma'am."

Even better, Campbell suggested, would have been to simply ask her how she wanted to be addressed — in case she identified as neither a sir nor a ma'am.

"I found myself in that situation not too long ago," DiGregorio volunteered later in the training. "My reaction was just to avoid the whole sir/ma'am, he/she thing."

Campbell nodded encouragingly.

At the end of the hour, she asked everyone to share a reflection about the training.

Scott went first: "I'm embarrassed by behavior I've exhibited in the past, language that I've used and knowing I probably upset people along the way ... I see it as an opportunity where I can move forward and hopefully fix some things."

When it was his turn, DiGregorio was ready: "Don't be afraid to ask what somebody prefers."


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: bluestates; homosexualagenda; language; leo; liberalascism; looneyleft; workplace
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1 posted on 07/19/2017 3:17:02 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Ludicrous. How many hours are being wasting in companies, public services, and the military over this crap?
The Cloward-Pivin crowd is laughing its arse off.


2 posted on 07/19/2017 3:19:24 PM PDT by GnuThere
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Spoiler alert: All 13 were "cis" — identifying with the gender assigned to them at birth.

Genders are not assigned, male or female is a result of what chromosomes you have.

3 posted on 07/19/2017 3:22:42 PM PDT by GregoTX
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4 posted on 07/19/2017 3:23:46 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: GnuThere
The spirit of Crazy Uncle Joe was there...


5 posted on 07/19/2017 3:23:56 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ....)
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To: nickcarraway

Unbelievable this nonsense is taken seriously by anyone, much less the State Police.


6 posted on 07/19/2017 3:25:34 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: GnuThere

Next thing you know they’ll be demanding cops say this crap while their being shot at “Drop your weapon cis-gender”


7 posted on 07/19/2017 3:26:20 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Trump: Greatest POTUS of all time solely for preventing Satan from taking office.)
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To: nickcarraway

Disgusted?

Ya gotta read this...!

https://www.amazon.com/Peoples-Republic-Kurt-Schlichter/dp/1539018954/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1500503273&sr=1-3&keywords=kurt+schlichter


8 posted on 07/19/2017 3:27:49 PM PDT by gaijin
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My name is Bob, I am to be addressed as “El Conquistador”.


9 posted on 07/19/2017 3:28:06 PM PDT by GMMC0987
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To: nickcarraway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol5Dfs7jqFI


10 posted on 07/19/2017 3:29:07 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies Tell me where is sanity?)
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To: SaveFerris

That pic always cracks me up, look at the guy in the back to the right “Whoa! Joe, I wouldn’t do that if I were you!” and then the guy in middle “Hmmm,now that’s odd” and then the guy to the left “What the hell is going on there?” LOL! And the guy whose hand he’s got his knee on “Should I kick his ass? But he’s the VP!”


11 posted on 07/19/2017 3:29:34 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Trump: Greatest POTUS of all time solely for preventing Satan from taking office.)
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To: nickcarraway

First lesson in Transgender Trainning: “If it has an Adam’s apple as big as a orange and a frontal pelvic bulge in the skirt, it is a DUDE! If you get drunk and make out with this person then your friends will never let you forget it. Your escapades will be the source of endless hilarity!”

This happened to a dickhead I grew up with in a small town and it still makes me smile.


12 posted on 07/19/2017 3:30:29 PM PDT by WMarshal (President Trump, a president keeping his promises to the American people. It feels like winning.)
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To: nickcarraway

Another heaping pile of Obama, et al, generated manure.

And someone calls me ‘cis’ anything their tonsils will be wearing their bow tie.


13 posted on 07/19/2017 3:31:33 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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This is flippin' insane, but you already knew that.

Here's the thing. Most people with sex/gender confusions are not trying to make trouble. They mostly want to blend in. In my admittedly limited experience, most of them (at least, the adults) have a sense of humor about the whole thing. And by the same token, most straight people have no interest in hassling them.

A few years back, I attended a conference (in a very southern city) of a group that is culturally rather conservative. By chance, we overlapped by a day a black tie ball put on by ... well, I don't know the sponsor, but the whole place was full of drag queens, one or two of whom might actually have "passed" on the street. It was slightly interesting, but I don't think a word was said by either side, and the whole thing went off without incident.

Live and let live is the practical reality.

The problem here is a tiny militant faction that is waging all-out war against Judeo-Christian sexual ethics, and a lot else besides. These people are totalitarians, and they are hell bent on mandatory reeducation and indoctrination of normal people. They do NOT represent the typical gay person. They are sick, quite independently of their sexual confusion; they are angry; they blame the world for their distress; and they fully intend to inflict as much damage as they can in retaliation.

14 posted on 07/19/2017 3:34:57 PM PDT by sphinx
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This OBSESSIVE focus on the transgender issue leads to draw the conclusion WE ARE BEING CONDITIONED TO ACCEPT THE EVENTUAL ARRIVAL OF EXTRATERRESTRIALS WHO ARE TRANSGENDER, BI-SEXUAL, ANDROGYNOUS, UNISEX, OR SOME SUCH..

Think about it.

15 posted on 07/19/2017 3:35:11 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Feminism DESTROYED females)
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To: GMMC0987

I prefer “Your Majesty”.


16 posted on 07/19/2017 3:35:55 PM PDT by theoilpainter
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To: gaijin

Wow that sounds good! And on Kindle, I’m going to buy it, thanks for the tip!


17 posted on 07/19/2017 3:37:29 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Trump: Greatest POTUS of all time solely for preventing Satan from taking office.)
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To: sphinx

Exactly. But the people who stay in the shadows are constantly being challenged to come out and (via lawsuit) fight what remains of normality in America.


18 posted on 07/19/2017 3:37:35 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

The guy on the back far right has the best look on his face.

The poor guy next to Joe is probably scared. And should have been.


19 posted on 07/19/2017 3:39:27 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ....)
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Once again I’m as confused as a man wearing pantyhose. The video showed a transgendered “woman” whose driver’s license showed it to be a male. Is a transgendered woman a man who transgendered into a woman or the opposite? IOW what was between it’s legs when it was born?


20 posted on 07/19/2017 3:40:23 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners.)
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