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Australian Gun Culture: “Safe Storage” and Registration: Part Four
Ammoland ^ | 15 July, 2017 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 07/19/2017 12:35:38 PM PDT by marktwain

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Arizona -(Ammoland.com)- The Australian gun law requires two things that are often cited as “common sense” by those without an understanding of everyday gun use.

They are universal gun registration and “safe storage”.  Both have been weaponized against gun owners in Australia. They are an object lesson of what to avoid for those fighting for the right to arms in America and elsewhere.

Registration does nothing to prevent crime. Both New Zealand and Canada had extensive gun registration schemes similar to Australia's. Both concluded that gun registration is costly and not effective in preventing crime. Both repealed their gun registration schemes in favor of gun owner registration systems.

In the Canadian and New Zealand systems, once a gun owner is cleared to own guns, they can own guns without a problem. Guns can easily be transferred among legal gun owners and gun shops.

Pistols are restricted much more than long guns in all three countries.

In Canada, pistols have been registered for 80 years. In that period, there was only one ambiguous case where registration might have helped solve a crime.

In Australia, the registration system is dangerous and cumbersome for the gun owner. Only the person who registered the gun may use the gun. An exception is made for people who are in the presence of the gun owner.

A gun may be borrowed or loaned to another person for a hunting trip or for vermin control, or simply to try out, if the person the gun is loaned to has the proper license for that category of guns. If the gun is to be transferred for more than 14 days, the police have to be notified of the new “safe storage” location.

Only the gun owner

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TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: australia; banglist; registration; storage
The major purpose of gun registration is to reduce the number of gun owners. The theory is that by making gun ownership expensive and legally dangerous, many people will be deterred from owning guns.

Over time, the number of gun owners will be reduced to become politically impotent. Because of Australia's proportional voting system, that has not happened. Australia is the only country in the world that has a political party, devoted to protecting shooter's rights, that has had members elected to parliament.

1 posted on 07/19/2017 12:35:39 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

:: In Canada, pistols have been registered for 80 years. In that period, there was only one ambiguous case where registration might have helped solve a crime. ::

Yet...it still did not PREVENT the crime from happening.


2 posted on 07/19/2017 12:41:20 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: marktwain

A thousand legal traps laid for “legal” gun owners.

I say we stick with the 2nd Amd.


3 posted on 07/19/2017 12:43:30 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: marktwain

I’m a firm believer in safe storage. I store mine right on my bedside table to keep me safe.


4 posted on 07/19/2017 12:54:37 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: marktwain

Works great WITH LAW ABIDING GUN OWNERS - with criminals - not so well.

The right to self defense is a God-given right and no law, state or government has any right to abridge that.


5 posted on 07/19/2017 12:58:43 PM PDT by ZULU (DUMP THAT POS PAUL RYAN!! KIM FATTY the THIRD = Kim Jung Un)
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To: marktwain

Recent Calif rules are similar, if not worse than Australia’s.

Just read them myself, in some detail. EEK.

I’ll gladly pay a Oregon Bicycle tax, of even 100% if I could avoid this CA stuff.


6 posted on 07/19/2017 12:59:47 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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To: marktwain

My daughter wanted to be assured that the gun I carry is not loaded so I imitated a person saying, “Excuse me Mr. Mugger. Let me load my gun before you attack me.” He fiancé and I laughed. Then she wanted assurance that my safety was on. I told her that 1) my gun has no safety and 2) see above.


7 posted on 07/19/2017 1:33:54 PM PDT by Mercat (I know my redeemer lives.)
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So is it all about registration and licencing? and buying a Yuge new “safe” to put it in.
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What hoops do jump thru just to take the 22 out plinking in the woods?

Any chance for a carry permit? Them gators are pissy in my yard!


8 posted on 07/19/2017 1:48:12 PM PDT by Delta 21
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To: circlecity

Safest storage is indeed within reach. But hey, “common sense” is not so common apparently


9 posted on 07/19/2017 2:40:41 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucifiedc)
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To: Delta 21

The guns are not to be loaded until actually in use.

Self defense is not considered a proper “use”.


10 posted on 07/19/2017 10:40:39 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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So why wasn’t your daughter raised shooting guns and have vast knowledge of them.

Or did she go to collage and change.


11 posted on 07/20/2017 3:33:34 AM PDT by riverrunner
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Long story


12 posted on 07/20/2017 4:24:03 AM PDT by Mercat (I know my redeemer lives.)
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13 posted on 07/20/2017 8:05:12 AM PDT by PROCON (President Reagan, your worthy successor has arrived to save our beloved America)
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When the registered gun owner dies, those guns will probably be destroyed unless arrangements have been made in advance to transfer them to someone else who is also registered.


14 posted on 07/20/2017 8:22:54 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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