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Far-Fetched Suit to Block Concealed Carry On Texas Campuses Gets Tossed Out
Forbes ^ | July 17, 2017 | George Leef

Posted on 07/18/2017 9:28:05 PM PDT by reaganaut1

It is a measure of how entitled many college professors think themselves that a group of professors at the University of Texas at Austin (UT) felt so annoyed that the state legislature ignored their protests and feelings that they filed a lawsuit against a law. The law in question allows people who have permits to carry concealed handguns on campus and inside most buildings on state university buildings.

That law (“Campus Carry Law”) was signed by Governor Abbott in June, 2015 and took effect August 16, 2016. Before the law had taken effect, three UT professors (Jennifer Glass, Lisa Moore, and Mia Carter) filed suit to block it. Their key argument against the law was that it infringes upon their First Amendment rights.

How could a law that allows people with concealed carry permits to keep their firearms when they’re on public campuses infringe upon anyone’s right of free speech?

The professors argued that the law could “chill” discussion of controversial topics in class because faculty members and students might fear that someone with a weapon would shoot a student or professor who disagreed with him. Such fear would cause faculty members to avoid discussing potentially dangerous topics. This argument plays upon the stereotype of gun owners as volatile people who can’t control their emotions. Bring up a touchy subject and you might cause a shooting spree, so don’t discuss any topics that might send a gun-toting student into a rage.

Would a court overturn a lawfully enacted statute merely because a group of professors claim that it makes them so worried that they fear to speak freely?

So far, the answer is a firm “no.” The First and Second Amendments do not conflict.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: academicbias; banglist; campuscarry; hysteria; lawsuit; militantleft
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1 posted on 07/18/2017 9:28:05 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: LUV W; txhurl

Ping.


2 posted on 07/18/2017 9:37:32 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: PROCON

Ping.


3 posted on 07/18/2017 9:40:02 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: reaganaut1

It’s only libs who don’t know how to disagree.


4 posted on 07/18/2017 9:46:50 PM PDT by gogeo (When your life is based on a false premise...you are indeed insane.)
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To: Army Air Corps; Arrowhead1952; NYTexan; mylife; Eaker; TheMom; laurenmarlowe; El Gato; RebelTex; ...

Good news Texas *ping*...thanks, Army Air Corps!


5 posted on 07/18/2017 9:57:01 PM PDT by luvie (Our troops are the best of the best and we should honor them EVERY day!)
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To: gogeo

I’d bet money those stupid women aren’t even from Texas! LOL!

OR...they’re from Austin! ffffft!


6 posted on 07/18/2017 9:58:38 PM PDT by luvie (Our troops are the best of the best and we should honor them EVERY day!)
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To: LUV W

Austin. What a joke. How did that town get so screwed up?


7 posted on 07/18/2017 10:15:42 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: reaganaut1

They assume that because that’s essentially how campus libs treat conservative speech.


8 posted on 07/18/2017 11:08:21 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Fiddlstix

I think having the legislature there isn’t helpful. LOL!

Are all capitols uber-libs? Sure seems like it.


9 posted on 07/18/2017 11:12:37 PM PDT by luvie (Our troops are the best of the best and we should honor them EVERY day!)
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To: LUV W
I’d bet money those stupid women aren’t even from Texas! LOL!

OR...they’re from Austin! ffffft!

As you most acutly observered, "Austin Aint Texas." I suspect Austin is a malignant tumor that came from California.

"Nuke if from Orbit, that is the only answer."

Just kidding about the last sentence but I assure you Austin is a politically screwed up place with an absolutely incredibly dynamic work force of high tech people that have turned a small city into a dynamic powerhouse.

10 posted on 07/19/2017 12:08:01 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mudman, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, CONSTITUTION WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: gogeo
It’s only libs who don’t know how to disagree.

Libs know how to disagree all right.

What they don’t know how to do is let others disagree.

11 posted on 07/19/2017 1:29:40 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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To: reaganaut1

I would agree with the professors, that widespread ccw would have a chilling effect on some campus “discussions”.

The main thing it would chill is the idea that mobs of leftist activists could threaten violence against conservatives. This may be what the professors are really concerned about.


12 posted on 07/19/2017 1:59:19 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: LUV W
Are all capitols uber-libs? Sure seems like it.
That is to be expected, since Democrats are the Party of Government:
SOME writers have so confounded society with government, as to leave little or no distinction between them; whereas they are not only different, but have different origins. Society is produced by our wants, and government by our wickedness; the former promotes our happiness POSITIVELY by uniting our affections, the latter NEGATIVELY by restraining our vices. The one encourages intercourse, the other creates distinctions. The first is a patron, the last a punisher.

Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one: for when we suffer, or are exposed to the same miseries BY A GOVERNMENT, which we might expect in a country WITHOUT GOVERNMENT, our calamity is heightened by reflecting that we furnish the means by which we suffer. Government, like dress, is the badge of lost innocence; the palaces of kings are built upon the ruins of the bowers of paradise. For were the impulses of conscience clear, uniform and irresistibly obeyed, man would need no other lawgiver; but that not being the case, he finds it necessary to surrender up a part of his property to furnish means for the protection of the rest; and this he is induced to do by the same prudence which in every other case advises him, out of two evils to choose the least. Wherefore, security being the true design and end of government, it unanswerably follows that whatever form thereof appears most likely to ensure it to us, with the least expense and greatest benefit, is preferable to all others. - Thomas Paine, Common Sense (1776)

Unfortunately, Republicans are less than perfectly The Party of Society - but at least they are closer to being that . . .

13 posted on 07/19/2017 3:03:54 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (A press can be “associated,” or a press can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
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To: reaganaut1
The professors argued that the law could “chill” discussion of controversial topics in class because faculty members and students might fear that someone with a weapon would shoot a student or professor who disagreed with him.

Had a conversation with an idiot on a local pier - he said my gun on my hip was really really scary and caused unnecessary terror in folks. After a five minute debate, I finally said if it was so dang scary, we wouldn't be having this conversation - his eyes almost glazed over trying to come up with a response.

14 posted on 07/19/2017 3:25:13 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: reaganaut1

HAHA


15 posted on 07/19/2017 3:28:32 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it, but ready to go again)
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To: Fiddlstix
Austin. What a joke. How did that town get so screwed up?

Easy, it is the vacuum cleaner for liberals from other States. It is like going to another world when going there for an over nighter. Makes me want to puke.

#TEXIT

16 posted on 07/19/2017 3:31:28 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it, but ready to go again)
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FReepmail me if you want to be added to or deleted from the list.

17 posted on 07/19/2017 5:56:21 AM PDT by PROCON (President Reagan, your worthy successor has arrived to save our beloved America)
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To: reaganaut1
Would a court overturn a lawfully enacted statute merely because a group of professors claim that it makes them so worried that they fear to speak freely?

So far, the answer is a firm “no.”

They just didn't find the "right" judge. Yet. Liberals practically never give up....

18 posted on 07/19/2017 6:02:59 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Fiddlstix

Politicians + Academics. Like vultures roosting. They kill the tree they nest in.


19 posted on 07/19/2017 6:10:57 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: LUV W

same thing


20 posted on 07/19/2017 6:14:03 AM PDT by Leofl (I'm from Texas, we don't dial 9-11)
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