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To: sukhoi-30mki

Eighties designed platform waxed in one minute or less.


8 posted on 07/17/2017 11:17:04 PM PDT by A strike (Academia is almost as racist as Madison Ave.)
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To: A strike

Only if our guys have AWACS support and can engage BVR. Exercises where the F-22 doesn’t have AWACS and has to find targets for itself can turn out quite different. The F-22 lost to a Rafale in a training exercise in 09 in ‘no AWACS’ conditions. In Cope India 04, when the US Air Force was deprived of AWACS support, the Indians in SU-30s racked up a simulated 9:1 kill ratio against the F-15

http://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2014/09/23/when_the_french_shot_down_an_f-22_107455.html

https://theaviationist.com/2014/05/02/cope-india-2004-results/

Consider that literally everyone else on the planet has been working on BVR AWACS killers for decades and the scenario of no AWACS support doesn’t seem farfetched any more.

There are other issues too - such as the fact that we haven’t updated much of anything in far more than ten years and there are new attacks and countermeasures that seriously screw with our radars and missiles.

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/americas-f-22-raptor-stealth-fighter-killer-it-can-be-14088


10 posted on 07/18/2017 3:33:40 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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