Posted on 07/15/2017 9:28:10 AM PDT by lowbridge
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I dearly hope that you do not have control of your own affairs!
You are deeply deluded.
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I dearly hope that you do not have control of your own affairs!
You are deeply deluded.
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So I’m deluded because its a topic I am thinking about ?
Well, Genius, what is your solution to the coming robot
and automaton technology boom where potential massive unemployment is possible?
How do we transition from a industrial age to a robotic age...
I forgot my sarcasm tab.
I forgot my sarcasm tab.
That’s 1000 people for which Applebees won’t have to:
Remit income tax to the federal government.
Remit income tax to the state government.
Remit both sides of SS & Medicare taxes to the feds.
Provide\pay for medical insurance.
Provide\pay for workers comp
Provide\pay for unemployment insurance.
Raise the minimum wage....what a great plan.
If you are near a Wawa, you will see that to order your food, you you a touch screen, then you see the employees make it. Even McDonald’s are using them.
Absolutely not. What you are espousing clearly promotes closure of the business if there is no way to make a profit.
Please, don't put words in my mouth I never said...
I never said anything remotely that even implied that...
All I said it was an interesting subject.
So if a profitable business decides to lay off employees and replace them with robotics to be more profitable, they have no responsibility at all to help that employee with a severance package or paid for new training ?
Just toss them in street ?
I'm not speaking of new jobs but replacing job positions already filled...
I was being sarcastic, I was not espousing it. I just forgot the sarcasm tag. Color me surprised that someone would agree with it.
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In about 8 years we will have the kingdom age, and I seriously doubt that any robotics will survive the 10 days of bowl judgements that precede it.
Not too sure just what you’re thinking, but can’t see reason to be worried about robotics.
How do we transition from Babylon’s age to Yeshua’s age?
He does all the heavy lifting!
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Not the response I expected...
To each his own...the Bible warns about dates and times of his return...
Marantha....
When government action causes a profitable business to become unprofitable, should the business owner be further penalized by subsidizing the workers thrown on the street by the government?
-——When government action causes a profitable business to become unprofitable, should the business owner be further penalized by subsidizing the workers thrown on the street by the government?——
Apples and oranges...you are injecting a parameter not germain to the question....
But to answer your straw man question ....No.
Why would the business be responsible for subsiding workers because of something out of their control like an costly government mandate ?
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The Chamber Of Commerce has bribed Congress into flooding the low end of the labor market with the unreasonable levels of immigration. We need the minimum wage to prevent the USA from becoming Brazil II.
Such as when the minimum wage is increased so that the business can no longer function profitably?
The alternative of going automated is, at the current time, in large part because of the minimum wage follies.
It is not a straw man. It is the insidious nature of this beast - when the government increases business costs through health insurance mandates, minimum wage mandates, etc., whatever the business does to stay afloat should be fine. The idea that such a minimum wage mandate can be imposed and then the business owner demonized for reacting to the mandate is illogical, and a favorite tactic of the left.
In the case of this discussion, the idea you and I started out discussing was whether it was a good idea for the employer to have to pay the government some amount when the employer tries to cut his labor costs under a new or pending minimum wage hike by installing automated kiosks.
Businesses exist to make money - for the owners. Each employee has an intrinsic business value - which equals the amount of money the can make the business. Businesses have no social contract with employees - unless they choose to voluntarily enact one (and I haven’t seen that in at least 15 years - probably 25).
Do you disagree that a minimum wage hike is a costly government mandate for the employer of low-skill individuals? (A serious question - not trying to taunt or be rude)
One other thought... “Scale” wages used by a lot of large unions are calculated as a multiple of the minimum wage. These calculations make a low of things much more costly when the minimum wage is artificially inflated (as is the social justice rage right now). Many of the government’s purchased services are based on union “scale” projects - such as road building, etc.
Thank you for having an intelligent discussion, although I think it is clear we at least disagree somewhat on this subject!
Means nothing. So a restaurant goes out of business. Where do the customers go? They could stay home and cook their own dinner or go to another restaurant that is still open. If they stay home they will save a lot of money. What do they do with that extra disposable income?
The minimum wage is a political weapon used by the left to beat over the heads of Republicans. The smart play is to tie it to inflation then neither side can use it.
The question I was responding to was whether an employer has a responsibility to take care of their ex-employees when they are let go. I was trying to stipulate that an external force made the employer take the action of letting the employees go.
Now, with respect to customers (as opposed to employees), they will take some or all of the extra disposable income and pay it to Uncle Same to pay for the now unemployed ex-employees of the business, and to pay for the higher union wage costs, and to pay for ...
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Yeshua went to great length to tell his own exactly what day he would return: Tishri 1.
The purpose of the feasts are to keep his own in the know all the time.
Shalom!
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