Posted on 07/12/2017 6:09:02 PM PDT by little jeremiah
Charlie Gard has a Wiki entry. It's interesting to note that he was born 8/4/2016, began having breathing problems on October 11, and was diagnosed mid-November with the rare condition he suffers from.
The Wiki information also indicates that his parents have been trying to arrange alternative treatment since January of 2017. So, the hospital and assorted medical and judicial bureaucrats have been kicking around what to allow, or not allow for Charlie for at least six months. You don't have to be one of the world's great physicians to know that six months delay in a potentially beneficial treatment has diminished the child's chances of improvement.
The Hospital says it will Charlie more pain and suffering.
Prayers offered up.
I keep hearing the words, "A government big and powerful enough to give you everything you need, is also big and powerful enough to take away everything you have...."
In the High Court of Justice Family Division 2017 EWHC 972 (Fam)
UK residents come to the UK for cancer care. Mortality stats for cancer patients in the UK suck. The UK is keeping Charlie for other reasons. Why people in the UK aren’t out in the streets over this is beyond me. But then they compliantly wait months for catract surgery and knee replacements, weeks or months for certain specialists, die sooner from cancer.
Prayers for Charlie and his parents.
I’ve read all 29 pages. Has Charlie been examined by any medical professionals not employed by the NHS and/or licensed by the UK?
But then they compliantly wait months for catract surgery and knee replacements, weeks or months for certain specialists, die sooner from cancer
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They have been told for years that theirs is the best system in the world.
Advertising works.
I have no problem with the NHS rationing care. They don’t have enough money to cover the bloated bureaucracy, the health care tourists, the looney benefits. They can’t pay for everything.
But this isn’t about money, is it. Not when the parents have other avenues for private care. It’s about who decides for Charlie. The money aspect is a red herring.
This should be scaring the ever-loving excrement out of anyone who depends on the NHS for anything.
No one gives a damn about the kid.
You have to realize that only MONEY is involved. The medical treatment system and doctors make more MONEY the longer they keep him alive. In essence, the baby is a “cash cow” for the medical industry and for the news agencies following it.
Too sad.
But this isn’t about money, is it. Not when the parents have other avenues for private care. It’s about who decides for Charlie. The money aspect is a red herring.
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actually it is about money. So if this child is stabilized in his current state, he will return as a full nursing care patient who would need round the clock care for the rest of this life.
When judges sit around and decides who lives and who dies is wrong. They’re denying that child outside help and the judges keep thwarting those efforts.
Why don’t you give a short summary?
I have no time to read a long legalese document.
The UK has socialized medicine. They don’t want to keep useless eaters alive. It is not about “making” money off of Charlie Gard, it is about the State getting to choose who lives and who dies, and they want him to die, so that’s it.
I seriously doubt it.
If they care so much about people suffering pain, why do they let, by practice, people thirst and starve to death.
That's precisely the problem. Commentators are making sweeping judgements on the basis of summary and incomplete accounts. It's a delicate, intricate, challenging and finely balanced complex of ethical, medical and judicial problems, all of which are lucidly demonstrated in the High Court judgement but which can't be accurately conveyed in a brief synopsis.
Exactly the same sequence of events would have been equally likely had the child been treated in a British private hospital rather than a NHS hospital. It's the brandishing of this sad case as a weapon against the NHS which is the red herring.
Your problem is that you respect authority.
The fact is, Charlie Gard's parents want to give the world's best doctors a chance at saving him, yet authority (God damn the Queen!) forbid them from doing so. That is fascistic, inhuman, and intolerable.
And why 4 July is a holiday.
What on earth has it to do with the Queen, who has no power whatsoever in this matter. I’m sure, however, that she has this poor little boy in her prayers, as do most of us.
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