[daniel1212]

To: DrPretorius Good comment. I would add that I believe (although who can know another man’s heart?) that President Trump is a true Christian and that he believes as he says he believes. However — some of the early Conservatives (1700s) were “enlightened” and no longer believed in God — yet they still agreed that the Bible was a very valuable book and that Christian morality was foundational to any well-ordered society. Christianity works. For the state of any man’s soul, I would urge him to truly believe in God and to trust Jesus as his savior. But even if a man’s only wish was to build a decent secular society on Earth for the Here and Now, then the teachings of Christianity are still the way to go. It is truly the only way to save the West. .

I do not think any founder was actually an atheist, even Paine.

[ClearCase_guy]

I can’t bring the names to mind at the moment, but I believe several people in England — contemporaries of Burke, but not Burke himself — were not religious, yet still pushed for the essential value of morality based on the Bible.