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Vatican Police Raid Drug-Infused Gay Orgy at Home of Cardinal’s Aide
Breitbart ^ | 6 Jul 2017 | Thomas D. Williams, Ph.D.

Posted on 07/06/2017 11:19:55 AM PDT by detective

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To: Rashputin

That’s creative. Blaming Luther for a homosexual orgy that took place inside Vatican city.

Where in the Bible does it say that if you sin, you should blame somebody else for setting you up? That’s what Adam did, right? He blamed Eve. Do you take that as a positive example? I.e.: do you believe that if someone sins, they should use Adam as the role model, and identify somebody else/a convenient scapegoat as having set them up?


21 posted on 07/06/2017 12:24:22 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic wotk using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: detective

This is why Francis is so popular among journalists.


22 posted on 07/06/2017 12:29:33 PM PDT by steve8714 (My wife calls me Dr. Smartacus. This makes me happy.)
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To: Rashputin

God sure did not blame Luther, why should you? Taking up for this bunch of perverts makes you one and the same... send them money, oh that is right, their emissaries are sticking it to ‘we the people’ via taxation... so I am now Catholic by ‘law’.


23 posted on 07/06/2017 12:31:04 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: detective

Cue “Tooling for Anus” by The Meatmen. Just replace Detroit with Vatican City.


24 posted on 07/06/2017 12:44:05 PM PDT by DickBrannigan ("And the fact that I haven't put a gun in my mouth, you pudding of a woman, makes me a winner!")
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To: detective

btt


25 posted on 07/06/2017 12:51:46 PM PDT by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump! DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: Fantasywriter
Blaming Luther for convincing people that individual interpretation is superior to having the meaning that has been passed down for, in his day, fifteen hundred plus years held to is not the least bit "creative".

It's a statement of fact.

26 posted on 07/06/2017 12:55:02 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Just mythoughts
God blames the sinner, and when people interpret Scripture to suit themselves they always err on the side of allowing themselves their favorite sins as if they're not sin.

I understand your points, though, in your opinion it's all about the money and your own law being superior to God's law.

27 posted on 07/06/2017 1:00:08 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Rashputin

Luther is no more responsible for a Catholic sinning than Eve was responsible for Adam sinning. If a person decides to sin, of course they would prefer to identify and blame a scapegoat. But nowhere in the Bible is that practice justified. It’s just a weasel way of attempting to shirk the blame.

James 1:

14 But each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust. 


28 posted on 07/06/2017 1:11:19 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic wotk using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter
Let me apply non-Catholic, Lutheran, doctrine to your comment :

Blah, blah, blah. The spirit moves them to believe that the unnatural use of their body (sodomy and perversion) are no different than you being free to eat pork or shell fish.

According to non-Catholic doctrine, all of it, there's no one who can say they're wrong or in any way prove that they're not led by the Holy Spirit rather than whatever spirit hangs out on the porch of their suburban home.

When people decide to throw books out of the Bible before they even begin to prayerfully study Scripture, it's a case of , "in for a penny, in for a pound". They've already accepted the belief that no one living or dead has any greater understanding of Scripture than they do and no one living or dead can tell them they're wrong.

That's reality. You don't like reality, that's your problem.

At least Catholic doctrine condemns them as horrible heretic perverts who are committing a sin that cries out for vengeance which is more than you can say for most "Christians" in this country.

The majority of "Christians" in the US, whether you admit it or not, are every bit as bad as the heretic US Catholic Bishops who claim it's just another run of the mill sin like lusting after the Hooters waitress.

Single out whoever you like if it makes you happy to do so, but don't waste your breath telling me that the Catholics and Catholicism is any more responsible for Satan running wild among the world's population than the richest, most powerful, "Christian", nation on earth where millions of infants a year are murdered and it's legal for sodomy slime-balls to marry one another is.

29 posted on 07/06/2017 1:28:51 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: livius

Thanks for the information.


30 posted on 07/06/2017 1:37:34 PM PDT by afsnco (18 of 20 in AF JAG)
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To: Rashputin

So you know more about what causes people to send than the Holy Spirit, who inspired James. According to the Holy Spirit, people sin when they are enticed and carried away by their own lust. According to you, it’s not their lust at work, it’s Luther’s teachings.

I believe the Holy Spirit.


31 posted on 07/06/2017 1:39:29 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic wotk using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Rashputin

Here’s how God speaks of sodomy slime-balls:

2 Peter 3:9

The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.


32 posted on 07/06/2017 1:42:19 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic wotk using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

to send = to sin


33 posted on 07/06/2017 1:43:15 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic wotk using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter
Sorry, there are many "Christians" who, in keeping with the teaching of non-Catholic folks who all flow from Luther, insist that the Holy Spirit has let them know that it's not a problem since they were, "born that way" and "God don't make trash".

You just must not trust the Holy Spirit as much as those folks do.

34 posted on 07/06/2017 4:02:32 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Rashputin

Can you seriously doubt that the Holy Spirit inspired the words of Scripture? Or do you simply not believe the truth that James recorded?


35 posted on 07/06/2017 4:05:40 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic wotk using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter
What I seriously doubt isn't the question. Faggots, perverts, and upstanding regular citizens who all claim they are their own infallible authority in all matters of faith and morals is the question and given the fundamental basis of non-Catholic and non-Orthodox faith, none of them can tell any of the others that they're wrong in how they interpret the Scripture.

Your lack of trust in the Holy Spirit is appalling, actually.

How can you claim to understand what James means better than anyone else who says they're guided by the Holy Spirit?

36 posted on 07/06/2017 4:11:35 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Rashputin

You just made the case,btw, that if the inspired word of God—the Bible—says one thing, and any person or institution says something contradictory, we must adhere to Scripture. People can say anything, but Scripture is, “God-breathed.”


37 posted on 07/06/2017 4:11:50 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic wotk using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Rashputin

What part of the following passage do you deny?

James 1:

14 But each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust. 


38 posted on 07/06/2017 4:14:30 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic wotk using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter
LOL. I believe it all based on not only my own understanding but also on the constant teaching of the Catholic Church.

Is English your second language or something?

The question is what the faggots, fruits, and perverts, believe and that happens to be exactly the same thing you believe which is that you can infallibly interpret Scripture for yourself because the Holy Spirit guides you.

Have you stopped beating your wife yet? Is that the sort of distraction from the real issue you're going for?

Without something other than your own BS and attempts to change the subject there's no way you can say anyone who disagrees with you is wrong in how they interpret Scripture. Period.

You wanna talk about what I believe? Let's start with where Luther got the authority to throw out part of the Bible and why you agree that throwing portions of the Word of God in the garbage can is a good idea.

Otherwise, buzz off with your attempts to change the subject instead of admitting that you have no authority to say that a bunch of perverts, Catholic or not, is interpreting Scripture improperly if they say it grants them freedom to commit sodomy just like it grants nice little "Christian" couples the freedom to abort their children in the womb as long as they do it very early, with chemical means, and call it "contraception"

have a lovely evening

39 posted on 07/06/2017 4:24:37 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: detective

It’s easy: next time invite the chief of police.


40 posted on 07/06/2017 4:25:17 PM PDT by Yaelle
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