Posted on 07/06/2017 3:23:55 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
Yup, I believe Trump will do that if he needs to.
Turning back all Chinese container ships would collapse their stock market very quickly.
They would soon send a team to cut little Kimmies throat.
The NYT, much to my surprise, has done a good job with this as well, pointing out that NK probably has the nerve gas they used to kill the brother at the airport. And probably has nukes as well. I don't have the links handy but it was well done - I know, I know. Still the points they made were on target.
We have no choice but to take them out. I worry that two weeks is all we have before he does it. Why would he wait? If he waits he risks us taking him out first.
I spent many many hours of international news forums yesterday as well. The bulk of the world is aghast that we would consider a military option. Canada, UK, - so I think the backlash will be severe.
But. We have no choice.
I’d like to see the Norks get an EMP popped off over their heads today. Minimal impact but likely enough to disable any further coordinated attacks. Yes, I advocate an all out preemptive attack. I don’t care what it is restricted to. The fat idiot has no restraints and the Chinese have failed in their “one job” and can go hang their heads in shame at their failure to control the little freak. Time for adults to take over.
If NK ever launched an ICBM at us, we would nuke their country off the face of the planet before that ICBM ever reached us. If Kim managed to get into a bunker before we obliterated his country, he would eventually emerge from his hole as the ruler of a nuclear wasteland. and he knows this. China knows this too. our best course of action is to increase our presence in the region and continue the brinksmanship game. F*** NK. There’s nothing there for us to be afraid of.
why do you think we don't have a choice?
Some of us are beginning to think that the culling of herd may not be a bad thing
You are right. There are no winners in this game. Dear leader will be bunkered down and we will have to EMP them... and Seoul. Problem is, you can’t move Seouls population into protection without showing your hand.
Millions will die there and S Korea will be financially obliterated with the loss of Seoul. Or we can do the same thing we have for decades.. nothing.
There is a slim chance that quietly exterminating Kim and his lineage will work.. but we have seen what happened in the ME when dictators were forced out.
There is no good way this ends... and politically we stand to lose everything gained. This could be either Lusitania or Berlin Wall.
I think the UN did this to get their funding back.
But here, let me try to help you out more.
In several extremely credible well-written and referenced pieces the NYT has pointed out that NK very likely has nerve gas and many nukes.
They shot the ICBM on July 4th, and Chia Head has repeatedly said he wishes to destroy our evil empire.
As many security council meeting members pointed out yesterday, particularly Ukraine and France, sanctions sanctions warnings warnings warnings warnings and hello...to keep doing the same thing that does not work is the very definition of insanity.
Apparently he has about two weeks to prepare another missile. SK has denied us THAD in their country. Russia and China were vocal about not wanting THAD in Asia. Some experts have said we could miss his next missile quite easily. We have been doing anti-missile tests and not getting it right every time. For that matter we missed shooting down a Syrian plane that was very aged because of Russian flares...at least once.
Chia Head cares nothing for his people and will happily put them at risk.
Your thoughts?
It is no longer 24/7 non-stop Big Brother watching over them, but they are brainwashed and watched by state. Watchful eyes of state can be bribed, though. There is some symbiotic relationship with security officials and ordinary people. Security officials' palm is greased by people and they look the other way, up to a point.
They may feel that they know the outside world. News and videos filter into the country. But they really don't. It is like some in remote Afghanistan watch American movies and videos, and think they know America pretty well.
Even when they are abroad, they usually live as a group in a sealed environment. They do not realize the huge gap between them and the rest of the world.
Yesterday on many international forums I read, even from Americans - "But Trump isn't doing anything!"
my monitor at work thanks you for the cola-shower.
what a jerk you are posting that. lol.
And then there is this
I have been supporting HSI who have been closing down dogmeat farms in SK and bringing the dogs here. The cruelty they suffer there is unimaginable. Torture for hours or days beforehand is considered to make their meat taste better.
So if SK goes down, oh well is my take on it. I am a dog lover.
So dogs dying upset you.. ok I get that... but innocent people dying doesn’t bother you? That’s like my pro por abortion friend who thinks sticky rat traps are in humane.
Regardless.. the political fallout should worry you. It will be like gasoline on fire, or worse.
Help me out here. They've been launching missiles, heading east, it seems like every other week for the last year or two. To date, we've done nothing. How are we going to know when a missile is carrying a warhead/nuke? After it lands?
How do we really know our intelligence agencies don’t know what North Korea’s missile and nuclear capabilities are?
Why would NK launch an a nuclear missile unless they see inevitable regime change coming? There are many, many people in the regime living well in NK who are guilty of war crimes and know that they will spend the rest of their lives in miserable prisons or be executed if they give up. So they won’t give up or provoke a counter attack that ends their rule, right?
Freegards
Even if by some minor miracle one of his missiles worked flawlessly, managed to elude the ever-growing missile defense system of multiple radars and interceptors, targeted a city (ie. hit where it was aimed or near enough), the warhead survived the flight and detonated... Everyone knows US policy for decades - since the early days of the cold war - has been and continues to be that an attack with WMD on the US will be responded to with our WMD.
No, NK's missile and nuclear programs are intended only for exactly how he's using them now - to gain attention, what he mistakenly thinks is respect or prestige, and as bargaining chips. That might have worked against weaker Presidents, it certainly worked on Clinton and bammy. I don't think Mr. Kim Jong whatever-the-xxxx is going to be quite so happy with the results now. He can twist the tiger's tail and play his games, but at some point the tiger is going to show his fangs and claws - and use them.
I think he’s yanking our chain and I think China is complicit. I don’t think he’s going to be launching any nuclear tipped ICBMs at us. I think we should ramp us our brinksmanship game and increase our presence in the region and strengthen our military and economic alliances in the region. If he actually does launch an ICBM and it is deemed to be a threat to US lives and interests, we should immediately nuke NK and we should make sure that everyone involved understands that that is our policy. We should not be goaded into a fight.
Send the feel-good emissary Roger Clinton back over there with a couple of kilos of prime Peruvian flake spiked with fentanyl.
I’m not sure that it makes sense for China to want to see us nuked. The U.S. “is” their economy. If all trade with China is stopped they would collapse financially.
yes, we have done nothing. and yet somehow we’re all still alive and well.
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