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Ohio city considers 'three strikes, you're out' policy on responding to overdoses
KMBC ^ | 6/26/17

Posted on 06/27/2017 2:29:55 AM PDT by Libloather

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To: CincyRichieRich

This is not a matter of forgiving or failing to forgive.

Methinks you need to think this through a little more before cherry-picking Scripture.


21 posted on 06/27/2017 4:27:19 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Among lawyers we agree that sometimes a few months in a jail is the best thing that can happen to an addict...they will hopefully (although no guarantees) not have access to drugs in jail.


22 posted on 06/27/2017 4:27:27 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Libloather

My daughter is a paramedic.

They do, on average 3 ODs per night. And this is in a town with a population of about 50,000 people.

There are two crews on most nights. So, that is 6 ODs, 365 days a year. At about $300 per trip—including time, insurance, and materials the total cost charged to the City is about 1.3 million per year. Annualized across the country, this costs taxpayers $9.1 Billion dollars.

And this is just for the ambulances and paramedics. It does not count rehab, hospitalization, insurance costs on the rest of us, and the foster kid programs.

Why we are not bombing the shit out of the cartels and drug king pins is beyond me. Bring the drones home and set them loose of the Cartels. This is costing us more than the war on terror, but we seem to be dealing with it by trying to treat the junkies long after the costs are incurred.


23 posted on 06/27/2017 4:32:59 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: neverevergiveup

Perfect analysis! Death penalty for the dealers and producers.


24 posted on 06/27/2017 4:33:49 AM PDT by momincombatboots (White Stetsons up.. let's save our country!)
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To: from occupied ga

The “prescribed opiate” addiction story is true. To a point.

The real culprit is the cheap Heroin, exported from—you guessed it—Afghanistan.

Heroin is so cheap that people who would not “normally” get addictied “try it.” Yes, these people are idiots. But do not fall for the “drug companies are bad” crap.


25 posted on 06/27/2017 4:36:40 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: anton

My daughter, a medical technician at an area hospital Emergency Room, refers to them as “frequent flyers”. She sees the same faces over and over, knows them by name.

Some come in unconscious, awake extremely pissed off when the Narcan revives them and wrecks their buzz. She can tell the exact date when a fresh shipment of heroin hits town.


26 posted on 06/27/2017 4:39:15 AM PDT by BraveMan
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To: Vermont Lt

the od/sobriety/rehab/methadone/suboxone/legal/prison healthcare government industrial complex needs drugs and drug addicts to keep employed and fatten purses and resumes.


27 posted on 06/27/2017 4:39:45 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: anton

In the past 3-6 months in West Michigan, there has been two news stories about OD’ed junkies found in the parking lot of two different hospitals.

They go there and do their drugs in the parking lot, thinking if they over do it, they will be found and saved by hospital personnel.

I have no sympathy.


28 posted on 06/27/2017 4:40:02 AM PDT by kevslisababy (I am a Genuine Female: No after market parts.)
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To: Vermont Lt

FWIW, in my neck of the woods of Upstate NY it’s prescription opiates. I don’t blame Big Pharma. I blame the patients, prescribing docs, hospitals, and Obamacare.


29 posted on 06/27/2017 4:41:34 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was ObamaThanks surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: VTenigma
I hope you never experience extreme pain as some of us have

Those in extreme pain who absolutely need them, I understand that. I'm referring to the overuse of these poisons, to the point where a large part of the opioid crisis is people who became addicts because of prescribed pain killers. Would you agree that people shouldn't take opioid pain killers unless absolutely necessary and they should be given alternative choices when they exist?

30 posted on 06/27/2017 4:41:56 AM PDT by grania (Deplorable and Proud of It!)
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To: grania
What’s dumb about saying that prescribing opioids should not be done except when it’s unavoidable?

You are providing an example of not thinking of the consequences. Who decides when it's "unavoidable? The doctor or the DEA? If it's the dr then that's what we have now. If it's the DEA, then you've just declared open season on medical professionals. The last thing we need is to prosecute doctors for doing their jobs which is what the actions described in your post would lead to. Doctors have a hard enough life now. It's a risky profession just from dealing with things like HIV and hep C, etc. You prosecute drs for prescribing opioids, and they'll stop prescribing to avoid the risk.

The person doing the drugs is the SOLE party responsible for their actions. The doctor didn't make them do it. The devil didn't make them do it. They did it because they wanted to and enjoyed getting high.

Your "idea" is exactly analogous to prosecuting gun dealers and gun manufacturers when criminals use guns to commit a crime or prosecuting car manufacturers when someone runs over someone else.

31 posted on 06/27/2017 4:43:04 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: varyouga

Mental illness deserves a bullet?

Your mother’s depression = bullet?
Your father’s alcohol dependence = bullet?
Your sister’s eating disorder = bullet?

You gonna kill those chickens?


32 posted on 06/27/2017 4:44:03 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: mewzilla
ObamaCare Is Fueling America’s Opioid Epidemic?!
33 posted on 06/27/2017 4:44:50 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was ObamaThanks surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: grania

most addicts start of street drugs. Not legal prescriptions


34 posted on 06/27/2017 4:46:29 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: grania

I’m 68, had several major surgeries, currently in hand cast for trigger lock thumb and a torn ligament, NEVER had a DR PUSH PAIN MEDS on me, their message has been if you need 5 mg NORCO take it, always NO REFILLS allowed. The first day I’ll take pain meds, then switch to Extra strength Tylenol with a ice pack, This approach works well. Then again the med is NOT LACED WITH FENYATAL EITHER. FENYATAL CAN KILL, MORE DANGEROUS THAN MORPHINE.

No one mentions other highly addictive drugs like Lyrica, Neurotin, Cymbalta, that get people hooked. Or that many Physche drugs cause major depression. You can add in sleeping pills to the mess, Lunesta causes extreme ROAD RAGE that don’t leave your system when you wake up, that is when the Road Rage effect kicks in. Xanax is highly addictive.

PIG PHARMA’S WAY TO MAKE BILLIONS, CREATE JUNKIES, Seniors are more vulnerable as many meds they take cause DEPRESSION along with losing Loved Ones, GRIEF is a totally misunderstood process, there is no time table for it to stop. Meds just prolong and complicate the process.

Physche drugs more dangerous than Heroin
http://www.rehabs.com/pro-talk-articles/psychiatric-medications-kill-more-americans-than-heroin/


35 posted on 06/27/2017 4:49:55 AM PDT by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up Buttercups it's President Donald Trump! DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: Chickensoup

/s


36 posted on 06/27/2017 4:50:09 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: Chickensoup

And the liberal idiots want to (or have already) legalized marijuana, medical or otherwise.


37 posted on 06/27/2017 4:50:32 AM PDT by fivecatsandadog (DRAIN THE SWAMP. BUILD THE WALL. EFF THE ACTIVIST JUDGES and Obama.)
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To: grania
I had a friend who was also my doctor. She decided that I was hooked on pain pills for my back problem. Therefore, she wouldn't prescribe them and I lived in agony every day. I could not walk from bed to bathroom without gasping in pain. Many times I would crawl.

Even so, she was demonstrating "tough love". I had no help from her. I did hoard pills when I could legitimately get them. It did alleviate some days' pain.

I was miraculously cured 3 years ago. A sudden cessation of pain with no treatment from anyone.

My former doctor and friend has no explanation as to why my "addiction" ended when my pain did.

Yes. I am still angry.

38 posted on 06/27/2017 4:52:56 AM PDT by Jemian (War Eagle!)
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To: Libloather

Huge payday for filthy lawyers of the area if this happens.


39 posted on 06/27/2017 4:54:27 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Comey = The Swamp Fighting Back)
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To: kevslisababy

Heroin addicts eventually die or quit. Very few long term addicts. When they do finally get it they can be good citizens. They have horrific recall. Not glamorizing the glory days of drug usage like potheads seem to do. And, unlike liberals who spend a lifetime as a menace to society they may actually end up being sensible people.


40 posted on 06/27/2017 4:54:50 AM PDT by anton
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