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To: BenLurkin

This doesn’t make sense. Why would a Muslim terror group alienate itself from all of Islam by attacking the holiest place in all of Islam?

Pardon me but it smells like a false flag and I’ll just betcha’ that the Saudis are going to blame Qatar for this and use it as a reason to go to war against them.


2 posted on 06/23/2017 3:12:12 PM PDT by MeganC (Democrat by birth, Republican by default, conservative by principle.)
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To: MeganC

It’s not the first time.
It’s hugely humiliating for the Saudi Royals, the official “ protectors of the two Mosques”.


3 posted on 06/23/2017 3:16:06 PM PDT by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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To: MeganC

In 1979 the Siege of Mecca took place almost simultaneous to the Iranian hostage crisis. See description of this book for details.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0307277739/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1498256316&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=siege+of+mecca


4 posted on 06/23/2017 3:20:49 PM PDT by wtd
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To: MeganC

The saudi’s have destroyed the place and turned it into Holly Roller city to bring in the crowds.


5 posted on 06/23/2017 3:21:19 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: MeganC

Mecca is no stranger to attacks. The one I recall happened in 1979 which left hundreds dead and injured.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Mosque_seizure


6 posted on 06/23/2017 3:23:03 PM PDT by xp38
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To: MeganC

As one that has delt with the arabs for many years I find this story inline with the way they think.
NEVER BELIEVE ANYTHING THEY SAY. Arabs are like DEMOCRATS......vile and disgusting.


10 posted on 06/23/2017 3:28:19 PM PDT by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket.l)
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To: MeganC

ISIS would attack Mecca or Medina to humiliate the Saudi regime. It makes them look weak and ineffective.

Not the first time such a plan has been undertaken


12 posted on 06/23/2017 3:30:58 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: MeganC
This doesn’t make sense. Why would a Muslim terror group alienate itself from all of Islam by attacking the holiest place in all of Islam?

As I understand it, the Saudi royal family is hated by many Arabs and many Muslims; in some cases, this hatred is a white-hot passion. I think it has something to do with the Sunni-Shia conflict, but there may be other reasons too.

Of course, it could also be a false-flag op, or the story could be BS, a casus belli fabricated by SA. Impossible to know.

What I do know is that it's hard to imagine a fate more grim than to be captured in Saudi Arabia and accused of trying to blow up the Grand Mosque.

16 posted on 06/23/2017 4:00:11 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Liberals think in propaganda)
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To: MeganC

Of course, you have no clue what you think you know


19 posted on 06/23/2017 4:12:19 PM PDT by Thibodeaux (Democrat calls for kumbaya must be met with their blood on the ground)
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To: MeganC
There was a huge attack on the shrine about 20 years ago by Iranian terrorists. The mullahs there want to take it over. The Sunni Shiite wars go back to the fight between Mohammed's child bride versus his son in law over who should run the religion.... and the slut won.

it is not clear if the terrorists here were Iranian Shiites or Sunni ISIS types who think the Saudis are not strict enough.

think of it like the Protestant mercenaries sacking Rome 500 tears ago. it is more about who controls the money than religion.

25 posted on 06/23/2017 5:38:20 PM PDT by LadyDoc (Liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: MeganC

The Arabs believe the first nuke the Persians (Iran) build will not be launched on Israel but at the moonrock. Persians (Shia) hate the Sunnis (Arabs).


26 posted on 06/23/2017 6:23:00 PM PDT by SanchoP (This post originated from deep inside occupied South Texas.)
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To: MeganC
Others have repeated the history of 1979...but here is some more information:

Recall this quote from a report from the ICNA (Islamic Circle of North America):

“The American mosque is a remarkably young institution: over three-fourths *76% of all existing mosques were established since 1980.”

Since 1980. . .so why choose the set point 1980? Puzzle pieces may begin to fall into place when considering the following incident and resolution:

1979′s Seige of Mecca", via book by Yaroslav Trofimov

Quote:

“On November 20, 1979, worldwide attention was focused on Tehran, where the Iranian hostage crisis was entering its third week. The same morning—the first of a new Muslim century—hundreds of gunmen stunned the world by seizing Islam’s holiest shrine, the Grand Mosque in Mecca. Armed with rifles that they had smuggled inside coffins, these men came from more than a dozen countries, launching the first operation of global jihad in modern times. Led by a Saudi preacher named Juhayman al Uteybi, they believed that the Saudi royal family had become a craven servant of American infidels, and sought a return to the glory of uncompromising Islam. “

Further discussion: PBS Frontline: “House of Saud” documentary discusses the deal made by the Saudi King to retain control over Mecca and Medina after the Siege of Mecca in 1979 as told in this leading Arab photo magazine spread for Majalla, The End of Jihad (2009), 30 Years After the Siege of Mecca.

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With the recent announcement of the switch of heir to Saudi throne from the elder son to the youngest son - it's not a surprise that old grievances arise ...

Reuters: Bomber planning to attack Mecca's Grand Mosque blows himself up: ministry

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AND...it's also clear why the invasion is well underway in Europe...


29 posted on 06/24/2017 6:41:04 AM PDT by wtd
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