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The Senate GOP's New Health Care Bill Is Just Obamacare, But Less Of It
Reason ^ | June 22, 2017 | Peter Suderman

Posted on 06/22/2017 10:38:13 AM PDT by C19fan

When congressional Republicans began drafting health care legislation at the beginning of the year, critics worried that the result would not be the repeal and replace of Obamacare that the GOP had long promised. Instead, they warned, the Republican party was on track to produce something more aptly understood as "Obamacare lite"—a watered down version of the law that is already in place.

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Eight years and this is what they come up with. Forward to single payer.
1 posted on 06/22/2017 10:38:14 AM PDT by C19fan
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Does it still have the huge penalty if you go more than 63 days without insurance.


2 posted on 06/22/2017 10:41:44 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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It’s a “caution” bill. They wanted to do enough to be seen as doing something, not enough to keep Ocare from crashing so badly that a real reform is possible.

I think even Yertle knew that a REAL, total repeal & reform was not possible yet.

Meanwhile, it’s ALWAYS going to be Obamacare.


3 posted on 06/22/2017 10:42:17 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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I hate those Mother Effers.


4 posted on 06/22/2017 10:43:10 AM PDT by No Socialist
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To: C19fan

I hate those Mother Effers.


5 posted on 06/22/2017 10:43:13 AM PDT by No Socialist
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As with the House bill the employer and individual mandates remain. The penalty rates have been set to zero.


6 posted on 06/22/2017 10:44:03 AM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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It does eliminate the employer and individual mandate.


7 posted on 06/22/2017 10:44:25 AM PDT by Signalman
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I keep reading that the dimbulbcrat party will soon be extinct.

Those writer keep forgetting that the Repulsican leaders have the backbone of a jellyfish, the intellect of a worm, and the leadership ability of a Hillary.

Trump would have to be dead for weeks before his testosterone reduced to the level of boy boy Ryan, and Rinse the PSewerus


8 posted on 06/22/2017 10:46:25 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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“The Senate measure mirrors the House bill in eliminating the ACA’s employer and individual insurance mandates and most of the tax increases it imposed to pay for new programs.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/06/whats-in-the-senate-republican-health-care-bill/531258/


9 posted on 06/22/2017 10:46:32 AM PDT by Signalman
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They are in a pickle and spineless. When the general consensus switched from ‘repeal’ to ‘repeal and replace’ years ago, the GOP screwed up.

No one ever talked about healthcare costs, the real problem. And they still aren’t.

So, either they go with ‘repeal’ or ‘single payer’ because everything in between is Obamacare lite (having the same problems as Obamacare did over time).


10 posted on 06/22/2017 10:47:21 AM PDT by Moe-Patrick (Make American Great Again! Eliminate real fascism)
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To: Signalman

See sections 104 & 105


11 posted on 06/22/2017 10:54:27 AM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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It will be a huge uphill battle to get this ‘Lite’ bill through the Senate, forget the House.

I will get interested when they get a bill that both house leaders (+Trump) agree on and they start rounding up votes.

Like the House bill it phases out the Medicaid expansion to save that $$$ for the tax cuts.


12 posted on 06/22/2017 10:57:04 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Message to Trump : I am not tired of winning yet. Please more winning ! Get your crap together fast!)
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To: Signalman

That article is incorrect.

See House bill sections 205 and 206 for the individual and employer mandates, respectively.

See Senate bill sections 104 & 105 for the individual and employer mandates, respectively.


13 posted on 06/22/2017 10:57:37 AM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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The GOP & President Trump have zero interest in ending Obamacare. Zero.


14 posted on 06/22/2017 11:00:04 AM PDT by gdani (Everyone is a snowflake these days)
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Does it still have the huge penalty if you go more than 63 days without insurance.

One of the summaries that I heard said that the insurance in no longer mandatory. If you don't like it, don't buy it. If so that is a huge change from Obamacare.

But, if not, then that's not so good. For me the "tax" and "mandatory" elements of the Obamacare were the worst elements.

15 posted on 06/22/2017 11:01:28 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed. About time.)
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I read in another thread that it eliminates all mandates. That will pretty quickly kill whatever is left. That is a good thing.


16 posted on 06/22/2017 11:02:06 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Best. Election. EVER!)
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The fingerprints of Mitch “The Turtle” McConnall is all over this weak version of Obamacare.

They should just let It die. The country got along for 235 years without government-run health care, and we could do without it again.


17 posted on 06/22/2017 11:05:59 AM PDT by txrefugee
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sections 205 and 206 https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-115hr1628rh/pdf/BILLS-115hr1628rh.pdf#page=82

sections 104 & 105 https://www.budget.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/SENATEHEALTHCARE.pdf#page=10

The employer and individual mandates remain. The penalty rates have been set to zero.


18 posted on 06/22/2017 11:08:24 AM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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“Obamacare lite”
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They never intended to repeal all of the agencies and power that Fedzilla derives from Obamacare.


19 posted on 06/22/2017 11:13:34 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Signalman

I like the elimination of the mandates on a personal and on a personal freedom basis but as far as financing the whole kettle of stinking rotten fish, it means premia will continue to rise, and dramatically.

There’s simply no way government can do this, unless it pays doctors and ins cos with non-money; eg; tax relief.


20 posted on 06/22/2017 11:13:37 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them!)
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