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Let California become our 'single-payer' test case
American Thinker ^ | 06/21/2017 | By Silvio Canto, Jr.

Posted on 06/21/2017 9:56:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The Obamacare repeal debate goes on.  We may have a U.S. Senate plan coming out in the next couple of weeks.

Obamacare's implosion is also moving forward: "Iowa's Last Obamacare Insurer Asks For 43% Rate Increase For 2018"!  Wasn't this thing called the Affordable Care Act?

The "single-payer" chorus is also singing 24/7.  They argue that a "single-payer" program would be good for all concerned or put us on the right side of history, as they love to say.

Here is an idea.  Let California become our single-payer test case.  It is the only place in the U.S. where there are enough Democrats to pass it and not a single GOP vote that could stop it. 

Why not let Governor Brown, Senator Harris, and the rest of California lead the way and prove to us that it is the way of the future?

According to an editorial in the Washington Post, the idea of universal care may turn out to be another one of those liberal dreams that always die when you calculate the potential costs.  This is from the editorial

The single-payer model has some strong advantages. It is much simpler for most people – no more insurance forms or related hassles. Employers would no longer be mixed up in providing health-care benefits, and taxpayers would no longer subsidize that form of private compensation. Government experts could conduct research on treatments and use that information to directly cut costs across the system.

But the government's price tag would be astonishing. When Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) proposed a "Medicare for all" health plan in his presidential campaign, the nonpartisan Urban Institute figured that it would raise government spending by $32 trillion over 10 years,


(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; healthcare; singlepayer
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1 posted on 06/21/2017 9:56:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Okay, but with a few guidelines here:

If it fails, we the American Taxpayers do not bail out the State, it’s up to Californians to do that;

If they go bankrupt like Ill. is doing, we the American Taxpayers do not bail them out, it’s up to the people who live in those States to do that...


2 posted on 06/21/2017 9:58:19 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 ( "The Force Awakens!!!"...Trump and Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Do it, California! The middle-class flight will increase to a flood, and your super-rich, super-poor, and illegal alien populations that remain can go under.


3 posted on 06/21/2017 9:59:19 AM PDT by American Quilter (President Trump's making good on his campaign promises--it's morning in America!)
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s what should have happened from Day One.
Let each State figure out their own health care policy.

Vermont tried to go single payer but they couldn’t because of Federal policies!


4 posted on 06/21/2017 9:59:32 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: SeekAndFind

.... Let California become our single-payer test case...

However, after it quickly fails, it will remain in place in perpetuity as another very burdensome tax drain without Lunatic liberals ever admitting it failed. In fact, they will call it a success. Just like Obamacare.


5 posted on 06/21/2017 10:02:30 AM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not tired of Winning.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What happens to out-of-state visitors who need medical help?

Just one of many questions I have, but that will be ignored.

Answer probably is to tax them for every dime they are carrying. Maybe assess them when they enter the state at the ag inspection stations, like posting a bond. Return unused portion when leaving the state, minus handling charge.

See, I could be a demoncrat.


6 posted on 06/21/2017 10:05:19 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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To: SeekAndFind

More taxes will drive many from the state. The socialist radicals that are running our state, just raised our gasoline taxes (again, again, again) to pay for their socialist mecca retirement fund (always been unfunded basically) and now they talk about this??? They have no money, and do have much debt.


7 posted on 06/21/2017 10:11:16 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: SeekAndFind

But not at federal taxpayer expense. California can do as it pleases with California State Tax money. Your state, your vote, your ledge, your problem. Words mean things and votes count.


8 posted on 06/21/2017 10:20:25 AM PDT by Billyv (Freedom isn't Free! Get off the sidelines!)
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To: SeekAndFind

No, thank you.


9 posted on 06/21/2017 10:20:37 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Scrambler Bob

Five year moratorium on visiting/transiting California. Let them be a private incubator.


10 posted on 06/21/2017 10:22:03 AM PDT by Billyv (Freedom isn't Free! Get off the sidelines!)
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Five year moratorium on visiting/transiting California...

I surely don't want the California rats abandoning their sinking ship and bringing more of their liberal crap to Arizona.

Only conservatives, if there are any left in California, can leave. Need a reliable test: Can they say "MAGA" or "I love Trump" without vaporizing.

11 posted on 06/21/2017 10:33:28 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: HarleyLady27

And no treatment outside of California if you don’t like the waits and denial of service, even if you can pay for it yourself. Otherwise it would be like having a submarine simulation where you can open the windows when you start running low on air.


12 posted on 06/21/2017 10:37:58 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity - Pres. Eisenhower)
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To: SeekAndFind

California can not pay for it’s own single payer health care program. That’s not how it works. It’s all about leeching the entire country. They would never isolate themselves to their own burden


13 posted on 06/21/2017 10:43:08 AM PDT by z3n
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s a stupid idea. California will divert ALL it’s funds to it - they already know it will cost more than their entire budget. Where do you think the money to run the state will come from?


14 posted on 06/21/2017 10:45:30 AM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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Single-Payer Healthcare Estimated To Cost Nearly Double California’s State Budget

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2017/05/23/single-payer-healthcare-estimated-to-cost-nearly-double-californias-state-budget/


15 posted on 06/21/2017 10:50:02 AM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: Lorianne

I thought Vermont abandoned the idea of single payer because the state budget there is $4.9 billion a year and single payer would cost an additional $4.6 billion.

No one was going to pay the huge tax increases to fund that hot mess.


16 posted on 06/21/2017 10:59:22 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation ("You can't fix America without pissing off the people who broke it".....Bill Mitchell)
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To: HarleyLady27

I totally agree HarleyLady, I live in CA. and I hope this damned state SINKS beyond repair, it IS the ONLY way anything can ever be done to get it back on the right track!!! I am here because of my elderly mom as soon as she passes I AM GONE!!!! Businesses are continuing to flee and I look to see in the very near future the tech industry to bail the state also!!! Tech industry employees can’t find places to live that are affordable VERY SOON the industry WILL BE taxed so high they will bail also!!! Only people left in the state will be illegal immigrants on the state gravy train!!! Nice weather BUT that is it!!!! Feel like I am living in Mexico already!!!


17 posted on 06/21/2017 11:07:21 AM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Ray76

They’re asking for a 15% state income tax increase to pay for it. Watch everyone with any money at all leave in droves if they pass it. We’re getting our house ready to sell right now in case they do.


18 posted on 06/21/2017 11:08:16 AM PDT by sheana
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That math doesn’t work. I’d leave now, before the storm. You’ll get more for your house now rather than later.


19 posted on 06/21/2017 11:10:32 AM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: sheana

Sheana real estate values in this state are sky high RIGHT NOW, don’t wait for taxes to go up rest assured THEY WILL, SELL NOW!!!!


20 posted on 06/21/2017 11:11:06 AM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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