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Seven Dead Sailors 'Were Trapped ALIVE inside Flooding USS Fitzgerald after their Comrades [Trunc]
Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | June 20, 2017 | James Wilkinson & Michael Fitzpatrick

Posted on 06/20/2017 8:43:40 AM PDT by Cecily

The Navy is investigating the horrifying possibility that some of those who died on the USS Fitzgerald when it sank may have been trapped alive in rapidly flooding compartments as emergency hatches were closed, it has emerged.

Cargo ship the ACX Crystal slammed into the side of the US destroyer off the Japanese coast while much of the rest of the crew were asleep on Saturday.

The cargo ship's bow, which protrudes underneath the water, punctured the steel armor of the ship, opening a hole into the quarters where more than 100 sailors slept.

Emergency hatches were closed on the compromised berthing compartments to stop the ship from sinking.

Now it's suspected that some of the seven men who died aboard the ship were locked in those rooms as they were flooded, Good Morning America reported.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: drowning; sailors; usnavy; ussfitzgerald
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1 posted on 06/20/2017 8:43:40 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: Cecily

Lose a few sailors or flood and sink the entire ship? Would the Enemy Media be happier if she had been sunk and all souls were lost?

Probably.

*SPIT*


2 posted on 06/20/2017 8:45:38 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set!)
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To: Cecily

When I was 12, I almost drowned. The next thing I knew I was on the deck with the lifeguard. I believe you pass out from the stress. That’s what seems to have happened in my experience.


3 posted on 06/20/2017 8:46:49 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Cecily

“...died on the USS Fitzgerald when it sank may...”

Huh?


4 posted on 06/20/2017 8:47:51 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Cecily
My heart and prayers go out to those who died in this horrific incident, and to those that had to make the decision and/or to implement the action to close the water-tight hatches to preserve the vessel.

That just has to be about one of the hardest things to order or to do.

5 posted on 06/20/2017 8:48:29 AM PDT by garyb (What if you can't trust the voice in your head?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Well, if I understand the purpose of compartmentalization, it is that you seal off each area so that flooding will not sink the ship.

Yes, there will be some sailors, possibly alive, in flooding compartments. That saves the whole ship.


6 posted on 06/20/2017 8:49:27 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“Would the Enemy Media be happier if she had been sunk and all souls were lost?”

Of course it would——then it could blame Trump.

Professional keyboard warriors disgust me——they ALWAYS criticise behind the safety of their PCs.

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7 posted on 06/20/2017 8:50:07 AM PDT by Mears
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To: Cecily

on the USS Fitzgerald when it sank?..........


8 posted on 06/20/2017 8:50:11 AM PDT by Red Badger (Unless you eat The Bread of Life, you are toast!.......................)
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To: Cecily

I agree with Travis McGee:

Really seems like “Nautical Jihad”

Why the insane U-turn...?

Cuz it was DELIBERATE.


9 posted on 06/20/2017 8:52:21 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: Cecily

It is a great pity to lose them. But ships and sailors are made for that eventuality.


10 posted on 06/20/2017 8:53:48 AM PDT by lurk
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To: Cecily

As a sailor, this is an ever present danger.

Always.

In the time I spent at sea, being attached airwing, I was fortunate enough to spend the majority of it in areas such as the flight deck and hangar bay where the possibility of being trapped in a flooding compartment was less, but I assure you, I felt that advantage acutely over the ship’s company who labored far below decks.

Those guys have guts.


11 posted on 06/20/2017 8:56:08 AM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals are in a state of constant cognitive dissonance, which explains their mental instability.)
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To: gaijin; Travis McGee; Cecily

I have a huge amount of respect for Travis McGee (and you too, gaijin) but in light of information coming out, regarding the timing, I don’t think there is any hostile intent. I think it was caused by human factors.

But, as I have said on this specific issue, I reserve the right to change my mind as more information is available. At this time, I don’t think it was hostile intent.


12 posted on 06/20/2017 8:59:13 AM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals are in a state of constant cognitive dissonance, which explains their mental instability.)
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To: gaijin

>Why the insane U-turn...?

The Uturn was almost certainly the ship coming back to help after the ramming. It takes forever to turn a large cargo ship around.


13 posted on 06/20/2017 9:00:16 AM PDT by JohnyBoy
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To: Cecily
In peacetime the loss of a ship is a great tragedy but it's not worth the cost of seven lives. I would have let them out of that berthing compartment even if the ship were to sink as a result of that action. Court martial me if you want. I say this as someone with many years of ocean going naval experience.

In wartime those sailors would have to face drowning but the situations are different.

14 posted on 06/20/2017 9:01:39 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: gaijin

My first thought was the MO....ramming folks...like on the streets of Europe... The hour of the day was an advantage.


15 posted on 06/20/2017 9:02:57 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: gaijin
Why the insane U-turn...?

Cuz it was DELIBERATE.

There's a story here posted yesterday that shows the timeline as originally reported to be incorrect, and that the ACX ship hit the Fitzgerald with a glancing blow rather than a t-bone.

Here's the link: Mapping the ACX Crystal's collision with the USS Fitzgerald using publicly available info

It shows a picture of the ACX Crystal's bow, and the damage is all on the port side, starting just aft of the bow.

IIRC, the updated theory is the cargo ship was on autopilot, and the strange tracking was actually after the initial collision as the crew of the ACX Crystal awoke and realized what had happened, and returned to render assistance.

Still doesn't excuse the crew of the Fitzgerald, someone screwed up.

16 posted on 06/20/2017 9:03:22 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees! - Kipling)
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To: LS

There should be at least TWO - and many times three! - man-sized exit holes from evey manned compartment below the nominal waterline.

BUT.

The forces of the collision are likely to have bent/jammed one or two exit hatches. The story could be true. Is not likely to be true - considering the source of Good Morning America is not exactly “Real News” about US military hardware and naval ship design and damage control.

But it IS all about “Anti-Trump, we are all doomed by Trump!” headlines and implications! Obola, of course, would be pictured as deeply saddened, and will immediately fly his family to Hawaii for a grief counseling photo-op with the (minority and lesbian/homosexual survivors!)


17 posted on 06/20/2017 9:04:45 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: rlmorel

Why the hairpin U-turn? How could they not have known the Fitzgerald was there?


18 posted on 06/20/2017 9:04:58 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Sacajaweau
A friend of mine also nearly drowned in a pool. He described it as a light switch being turned off the instant he inhaled water and then laying poolside coughing it up. No memory of the time in between. Sounded to me like the experience someone has as they're sedated for surgery. One moment you're looking up at a nurse or doctor in their mask and then, with no sense that hours have passed, you're groggily coming to in Recovery.

The idea that it's a frightening but quick and painless end will be no comfort to families of the sailors. But in a situation like this hard decisions such as sealing off water tight compartments must be made. Whoever made that call will have to live with it the rest of his life.

19 posted on 06/20/2017 9:05:36 AM PDT by katana
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To: Cecily

While silence isn’t golden, at least Trump isn’t telegraphing his next move.

Once the joint chiefs conclude their investigation and the facts are known by those who need to know (not like the 0bama regime where they were leaked to the MSM and the #of troops, seals, marines, missles to be used), the response will be a surprise, out of nowhere. I trust him. Silence sucks, but it won’t be long.


20 posted on 06/20/2017 9:09:04 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (We must never shut up. Covfefe: A great dish served piping hot!)
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