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Turley: Trump Tweets on Travel Order “Like a Presidential Version of Death by Cop”
Legal Insurrection ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 06/13/2017 5:42:45 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

In the wake of the Kathy Griffin severed-head fiasco, and the Central Park play depicting the assassination of President Trump, you’d think that pundits might have the good sense to lay off metaphors invoking the violent death of the president.

But today comes law prof Jonathan Turley with yet another sanguinary simile. Appearing on Morning Joe to discuss President Trump’s executive order on travel, Turley suggested that President Trump’s tweets on the subject are undermining his case.

Then Turley went there: “it’s like a presidential version of death by cop. Every time you seem to make advances, the president seems to stand up and say ‘shoot me, shoot me.'”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; deathbycop; dopeydems; jonathanturley; presidenttrump; second100days; travelorder; trump45; turley
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1 posted on 06/13/2017 5:42:46 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: miss marmelstein; patro; abb; SE Mom; HarleyLady27; connyankee; Behind Liberal Lines; ...

Lay off the metaphors about President Trump’s violent death.

Ping to Liberal Media Criticism list.


2 posted on 06/13/2017 5:43:37 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (FReepmail or ping me to be put on my ping list for criticism of liberal media)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I seriously do not see what Turly is so worked up about, Trumps tweets are rather sober and direct. He has not made any recently that are cringe worthy. In fact, President Trump needs to be very explicit that this is blood on the courts hands for interfering with his constitutional presidential authority.


3 posted on 06/13/2017 5:48:28 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Turley’s article is worth reading on his website. Res Ipsa Loquitur. And as kellyanne conway’s husband warned..the courts will use his tweets.


4 posted on 06/13/2017 5:52:45 AM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: RummyChick

Use them for what? To try and stop his agenda in any way possible, as they have been doing since November 9, 2016?

All this caterwauling is nothing more than the Deep State whining in desperation to stop him from setting the narrative. They have had total reign for so many decades that now they see it slipping away when our President talks directly to us whenever he wants.


5 posted on 06/13/2017 6:00:49 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: RummyChick

Purty friggin’ sad is this whole “ban” thing. I suppose receiving a law degree comes with some sort of decoder ring or something to make invisible ink visible? Maybe a higher plain in the comprehension department? As a NON lawer, my reading of the law that is being used, basically says the President can refuse entry to anybody at anytime for any reason. Period, end of story. His discretion. Guess that doesn’t cut it anymore huh? I really don’t like these people.


6 posted on 06/13/2017 6:02:47 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
What Turley is defending, in a way, is the fact that Courts don;t apply the law, they work on whim and favoritsm. Smae order by Obama would pass, but if issued by Trump, it is unconstitutional, literally "because Trump."

So, Turley concludes, the problem is Trump. The Courts are fine.

7 posted on 06/13/2017 6:05:53 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: mazda77

Turley thinks there is a good legal team that stands a chance of seeing Mandel upheld.

Kellyanne’s husband..and Turley...and several people here...including myself think he is jeopardizing it.

Turley know Constitutional law.

Just because you want Trump to tweet doesnt mean he should act like a witness against himself.

But I get that most of the people here do not understand the folly of unvetted tweets


8 posted on 06/13/2017 6:07:40 AM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: rktman

Maybe you should actually go read his articles about the subject.


9 posted on 06/13/2017 6:08:58 AM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: Reno89519

Trump is just stirring the pot to keep the opposition occupied. Taking 10 seconds out of his day to keep them this preoccupied is time well spent.


10 posted on 06/13/2017 6:23:48 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: RummyChick

Hey, I just woke up. Only on cup 2 of the coffee urn. ;-) Besides which, my comments were directed at the appeals court ruling than Turley’s articles on the subject. Turley agrees with me on the subject. (I only say it like that since I’m older than he is.)


11 posted on 06/13/2017 6:28:21 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: rktman

LOL

What the law SHOULD be and what it ends up being is often influenced by things that should have no bearing.

9th circuit shows that over and over and over


12 posted on 06/13/2017 6:33:43 AM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I hate to defend anyone at MSNBC but it’s clear the metaphor was to political suicide, not a discussion of a literal violent death.


13 posted on 06/13/2017 6:35:36 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines (Their side circles the wagons. Our side revs up the bus.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Unfortunately this tripe analysis will only change when the inevitable terrorist strike occurs. It’s too bad the anti-Trumpers are allowing our country to be infiltrated by potential terrorists, one will likely strike.


14 posted on 06/13/2017 6:36:39 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

True. But even so, as my mother used to say, “not even in a joke.”

In this overheated environment, we can do without such metaphors, even be they political.


15 posted on 06/13/2017 6:38:39 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (FReepmail or ping me to be put on my ping list for criticism of liberal media)
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To: RummyChick

I am very well aware of Turley’s history, but the bottom line is he is still part of the Swamp when the rubber hits the road. He was an early critic of Trump during the primaries. The Swamp is pulling everything they have to limit or end the tweeting so they can again control the template and therefor, the agendas.


16 posted on 06/13/2017 6:43:49 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: RummyChick

Maybe more like what the law ‘IS’ and how it’s misinterpreted by ultra brilliant judges at lower court levels. And again, how come the SCOTUS can stay an execution in hours yet things like this take months. In any case, still a sad dang situation. I volunteer these judges to pony up and take in some of the refugees. And, WE get to pick ‘em. ;-)


17 posted on 06/13/2017 6:47:03 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: RummyChick

I read that tweet. He didn’t not say anything that he has stated over and over from behind a lectern.

Just because he said the same thing with a tweet and the tweet itself is a game changer is laughable.

If a judge cites a tweet in a ruling, then that means the judge has no legal basis for his decision, and is trolling.

It’s like a senator mentioned to Comey: What Trump thinks about the investigation over a supposed Russian collusion is no secret, as he has voiced his thoughts on it over and over in public.


18 posted on 06/13/2017 6:47:09 AM PDT by odawg
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To: odawg

I will defer to people who actually deal with Constitutional law on a daily basis.

His tweet is indicative of the problem with Trump.

His people were making it very clear it wasn’t a travel ban. Spicer, lawyers, Conway -IIRC, etc. His lawyers formulated a strategy. Trump blew it up...and when he did it..he knocked his legal team in the process.

He flips it and calls it a travel ban

Same with why Comey was fired. His people saying one thing..Trump flips it with Trump saying in an interview it was because of Russia

Trump’s lawyer saying one thing about conversation with Comey..Jr coming out and indicating his father said something different.

It plays out this was over and over again.

The words Travel Ban in that tweet are important.

I urge you to listen to the the recording of the oral argument before SCOTUS when it comes out. He gave them ammunition.


19 posted on 06/13/2017 6:57:05 AM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: RummyChick

‘His tweet is indicative of the problem with Trump.’

Somebody once posted that you make positive as well as negative comments about Trump. I’m still waiting for someone, anyone, to direct me to your Trump-praising posts. All I ever see is nonstop criticism.

So far your gloom and doom hasn’t panned out. Do you have any kind of timetable, indicating when Trump—if he continues to be unaware of your incessant nagging—crashes and burns? It’s no use prophesying Trump’s self-destruction if it never happens. By what point in his term do you foresee the cataclysm?


20 posted on 06/13/2017 7:09:57 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic wotk using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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