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Senate Inching Closer To ObamaCare-Repeal Compromise? (“Inching” being the operative word.)
Hotair ^ | 06/09/2017 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 06/09/2017 9:30:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Reports this week give some reason for optimism that Senate Republicans have begun getting closer to a deal on an ObamaCare repeal package that can pass under reconciliation. Just how much closer is still up for debate. Roll Call offers a more optimistic view of the situation this morning, with Andrew Siddons reporting that more moderate members have coalesced a little more around a new plan. However, even that is getting tested by the details:

Moderate Republicans on Thursday said they were getting closer to supporting an emerging Senate health package but are continuing to press for a slower phaseout of the Medicaid expansion than the House-passed bill set out.

The Medicaid expansion question seems to remain the biggest unresolved issue as Republicans try to finalize a bill they can vote on before the end of June. To meet their timeline, they would have to send a bill to the Congressional Budget Office for a cost estimate by early next week, according to a Republican aide.

Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has proposed phasing out higher federal payments for people who sign up for Medicaid under the health law’s expansion in three years. Ohio Republican Rob Portman and others such as Nevada’s Dean Heller are pushing for a seven-year phaseout ending in 2027. Senators also are debating how much to reduce federal funding for Medicaid as compared to current law.

The pace of the Medicaid-expansion rollback is hardly a minor issue. That accounts for all of the net cost savings that qualified the House version of the AHCA for reconciliation in the Senate (presumably). The CBO’s latest score for the AHCA showed that the rollback under the 2020 deadline would save $665 billion over the next decade, with the overall bill coming in with a cost savings of just $119 billion. Rolling back the end date will have a big impact on whether the overall package results in enough savings to qualify under reconciliation, and there’s not a lot of room for error.

In order to make that work, the Senate may have to keep some tax components in place, which won’t sit well with conservatives. And those aren’t the only components that may remain, according to a less optimistic look from the Washington Post:

In their effort to revamp the nation’s health-care system, Senate Republicans are considering preserving or more gradually eliminating key elements of the Affordable Care Act that the House voted to discard, creating an uncomfortable political situation for the party after years of promises to fully repeal the law.

Senate GOP leadership told rank-and-file Republican senators during private talks this week that they favor keeping guaranteed protections for people with preexisting medical conditions — a departure from the House approach of allowing states to opt out of a regulation ensuring such individuals are not charged more for coverage.

Senate Republicans have also been mulling options to more slowly roll back the expansion of Medicaid that most states accepted under Obamacare, and they are also openly talking about keeping many of the taxes the law imposed. The goal is to find a sweet spot of at least 50 votes in a sharply divided group of 52 Republican senators, many of whom are from states where coverage levels increased under President Barack Obama’s signature health-care law.

As Sean Sullivan and Kelsey Snell note, that’s not going to pass muster with the conservo-libertarian trio of Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, and Mike Lee. That only leaves 49 potential votes for Mitch McConnell, one shy of being able to corral Mike Pence into a tie-breaker. If that’s the case, though, could the concessions in the Senate bill woo Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin to cast an affirmative vote? A month ago, he pledged that he could deliver eight to ten Democrats on an ObamaCare “fix” rather than a repeal. Would this Senate version qualify enough for Manchin’s moderate caucus? Almost certainly not, but perhaps Manchin could deliver himself, and that might be enough. It seems like a long shot that Manchin, who’s running for re-election in 2018, will want to add his name to a Medicaid-expansion rollback just as West Virginia voters decide whether to send him back to Washington.

There may be some reasons for optimism in the sense that the Senate has begun putting together an actual plan to debate, rather than just discuss the House version of the AHCA, which was dead on arrival. However, the same issues still exist, and it’s far from clear that McConnell can get to 50 in any combination of formulas.



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1 posted on 06/09/2017 9:30:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

MHO...this is the single biggest failure of the GOP and proof that they were never serious about actually governing. For how many years did they say “Repeal and Replace?” The failure to have the replacement ready to go on January 20 is inexcusable.

You might not like the idea of replacing 0bamacare. You might not like the specific replacement. That’s not really the point so much as the fact that there was NO REPLACEMENT ready for passage when the opportunity arose, which shows a party systemically dysfunctional and incapable of governing. Or maybe just not willing to govern.


2 posted on 06/09/2017 9:35:40 AM PDT by henkster (Orwell, Rand and Huxley would not be proud of our society, but they'd have no trouble recognizing it)
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To: henkster

The GOP is lying because they “think” that their
lying to America will hurt President Trump
and help their chosen King Romney and his toadie Ryan.

NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

America HATEs the GOP for daring to lie again,
and they will pay with their jobs as they are
ALL replaced with real conservatives.


3 posted on 06/09/2017 9:38:06 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: henkster

#exemptocratcongress bailing out Obamacare. Not just NO! At least dreamers won’t have to worry.
Tired of being lied to yet? Gotta grant universal citizenship? Liars.. and exempt liars at that.


4 posted on 06/09/2017 9:38:52 AM PDT by momincombatboots (White Stetsons up.. let's save our country!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Senate Inching Closer To ObamaCare-Repeal Compromise? ("Inching" being the operative word.)

("Millimetering" maybe!>

5 posted on 06/09/2017 9:41:11 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Fourth estate? Ha! Our media has become the KCOTUS, the Kangaroo Court of the United States.)
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To: henkster

People forget . . . the Dems DID NOT GET WHAT THEY WANTED IN OBAMACARE.

They had the same problem the GOP does. Factions do not agree. They could not get a single payer plan through their own caucus. But they fought hard and argued and persuaded and bribed and they GOT SOMETHING.

The GOP is going to have to do the same thing. There is no choice.

You’re right, this HAS to be done. It’s the centerpiece position of the party and the Prez both. There MUST be repeal and replace and all it really has to do is 2 things — it has to have lower premiums and it has to pass both houses.


6 posted on 06/09/2017 9:44:01 AM PDT by Owen
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To: henkster
Here's the basic problem that Republicans face here, which explains why I've been very patient with them on this particular issue:

1. ObamaCare basically screws younger people (and employers of younger people) on behalf of older people through its mandates for health coverage.

2. The people with the most risk in any discussion about health care coverage are in the 50-65 age group, when their health care costs typically rise but before they are old enough to qualify for Medicare.

3. Younger people voted overwhelmingly for Hillary Clinton last year, and are reliable Democrat voters in most House and Senate races.

4. Older people voted overwhelmingly for Donald Trump last year, and are reliable Republican voters in most House and Senate races.

This is the problem the GOP faces. They can't just shut down Obamacare without having a feasible plan in place to deal with their core constituents in that 50-65 age group.

7 posted on 06/09/2017 9:44:44 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: SeekAndFind

I posited yesterday that Rush had explained three major interpretations for Congress not supporting/passing Trump’s agenda.

1) They are neverTrumper obstructionists (true to some degree)
2) They are just incompetent (who can argue?)
3) NEW ONE: They were willing to help Trump, but are still unsure if he’ll “make it” or survive.
4) I have a different take. I don’t think Congress is suicidal-—unlike the full ideologue Dems in 2009 who KNEW that by supporting Ocare they would lose. I do think 99% of Congress/Senate does want to get reelected. They are NOT incompetent. We’ve seen them move with blazing speed if they want something (Gorsuch) and move quietly (repeal of Dodd-Frank).

So I think they are strategically holding off until much later this year or early next year on both tax cuts and Ocare so that they can RUN on these things in 2018 when it is fresh in voters’ minds. Again, just my take, but I think THEY think that passing stuff too soon would cause Trump, and not them to get all the credit.


8 posted on 06/09/2017 9:46:09 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Owen
There MUST be repeal and replace and all it really has to do is 2 things — it has to have lower premiums and it has to pass both houses.

Couldn't have said it any better. Now I'm trying to figure out why we were arguing with each other so much when Ryan's bill was being debated. LOL.

9 posted on 06/09/2017 9:46:29 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: LS
I think your #4 is spot-on.

I would even go so far as to suggest that the GOP House leadership has been cutting deals with certain members in Democrat-leaning districts to let them vote against any ObamaCare repeal/replacement bill to help protect their House seat.

10 posted on 06/09/2017 9:48:42 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: SeekAndFind

If the republican bill doesn’t significantly lower premiums and deductibles by open enrollment in the Fall, it’s useless. From what I’ve read, males between the ages of 60 and 64 will be hit the hardest. That’s a big part of Trump’s base right there. They need something for early retirees who don’t abuse the healthcare system. The 62 to 64 year olds are all but forgotten in anyone’s bill.


11 posted on 06/09/2017 9:49:37 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: henkster

100% correct. And this in NO way reflects on Trump, as he took their word-—given for seven years-—that they were going to repeal.


12 posted on 06/09/2017 9:52:18 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: LS

We’re gonna have to rename you Larry the Sunshine Man! Your take on this above (#4) is like the sun with a big smiley face breaking through storm clouds.


13 posted on 06/09/2017 9:54:09 AM PDT by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: get the government out of medicine and education!)
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To: jersey117
The only way to lower premiums and deductibles is to reduce the terms of coverage. In other words, insurance carriers must have the ability to do at least one (preferably both) of the following:

1. Cap or reduce coverage for pre-existing conditions.

2. Impose annual and/or lifetime limits on claims.

I'm surprised #2 hasn't gotten more traction in Congress. This seems like a no-brainer, since the lack of any limits on claims defeats the whole purpose of insurance coverage. If the insurance company has no limit on its financial exposure, is it any surprise that their insurance coverage is going to be prohibitively expensive -- to the point where they don't even want to sell the coverage at all?

14 posted on 06/09/2017 9:58:37 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: SeekAndFind; All
If Trumpcare requires new federal powers beyond the scope of Congress’s limited Commerce Clause powers (1.8.3) as clarified by the Supreme Court in Gibbons v. Ogden below, then the Senate better be planning to work with the House to propose a Trumpcare amendment to the Constitution to the states.

Note that the states are not obligated to ratify any proposed amendment to the Constitution.

15 posted on 06/09/2017 9:59:22 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: LS

RE: 3) NEW ONE: They were willing to help Trump, but are still unsure if he’ll “make it” or survive.

Notice one MAIN difference between the GOP and the Dems. The Republicans ARE NOT AS UNIFIED as the Democrats.

The Dems will UNIFIY to support their candidate through think and thin ( Clinton or Obama ), EVEN when they are found to be impeachable and corrupt.

The Republicans can’t do the same thing.


16 posted on 06/09/2017 10:02:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: LS

One of the “no” votes on the House bill is in the district next to me. It’s one of those Hillary-supporting districts that still elected a GOP congressman. His Facebook page was just hammered with leftist activists demanding he not sign onto the repeal and replace.

Part of this is simply the nature of who some of these Republicans are and what districts they are in. They are RINOs and always have been in order to get elected in blue districts. But, yeah, they are the ones responsible for doing the dishonest “show votes” all the other times they said they’d repeal it.

The other part of it is the increased left-wing activism, be it grass-roots or astroturf. That is the bigger danger. If our side can’t go to toe-to-toe with the other side on the grass-roots stuff, we’re going to have more problems going forward. The normal American pastime of voting and then going back to live your own life that conservatives like to do is a losing proposition against rabid, leftist activists. We may juice ourselves up for actual elections better, but in the meantime they’re wreaking havoc through activism.


17 posted on 06/09/2017 10:02:27 AM PDT by JediJones (We must deport all liberals until we can figure out what the hell is going on.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Everything you say is true about the demographic and political conundrum of 0bamacare. However, the GOP has had six years to figure a way out of the box. And they should have at least had a viable framework ready to roll out. They get in power and it turns out they have nothing. It appears it was empty rhetoric in pursuit of power. And maybe that’s all it ever was.


18 posted on 06/09/2017 10:03:07 AM PDT by henkster (Orwell, Rand and Huxley would not be proud of our society, but they'd have no trouble recognizing it)
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To: Alberta's Child

Well, this article pretty well makes clear that they can MAKE THE DEAL any moment they choose, right?


19 posted on 06/09/2017 10:24:23 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: SeekAndFind

All going as planned. Obamacare is a failure and will be replaced by GOPcare which also will be a failure. The public will have a fit and elect a RAT next go around. The rats will fix GOPcare with single payer. There fixed!!


20 posted on 06/09/2017 10:25:22 AM PDT by woodenickel
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