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To: monkeyshine

Comey is clever like a fox. I suspect he is in league with Schumer or others on the left, pretending to be honest Abe and not in anyone’s camp. I just don’t trust the guy after watching him today. I get a funny feeling with all of these “I may be wrong” pronouncements. They were all fake in my opinion.

Something is wrong with this entire Russian business. It may be so, but I have not heard of anything concrete describing their operations. It is claimed they hacked into DNC, but DNC refused to allow the FBI to check it out. The Dems lie so much I wonder if that is true or not. The Russians tried to hack the RNC but couldn’t get in. And the cyber nerds tell me it is possible for someone to hack you but leave the fingerprint of someone else. That cyber stuff is out of my league. But what, actually, did the Russians do?? No guessing, just tell be in layman terms so I can understand. What did the Russians do?


91 posted on 06/08/2017 5:17:26 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: elpadre

They failed to get her elected.

Remember how 0bama expelled 35 Russian diplomats late last year?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/29/barack-obama-sanctions-russia-election-hack

If we look back, we see that there’s been an arc create that’s been screaming to go to war with Russia for quite awhile. Something wants this war badly.

I happen to think that the Muh Russia schtick is cover for their sedition, stealing, murder, corruption, collusion with the PRC, and more heinous $hit than I want to think of.

0bama took all those fines of banks and corporations and fed them to his pet causes and pet people. The Clintons have done it for decades. This Muh Russia thing slows down Trump in an effort to continue to destroy the US and to separate Trump from us, his base.

D.C. is gone. Pretty place. Filthy swamp. I will never go there again.

Trump is our Flight 93 POTUS. These DC denizens are after us, after all.


97 posted on 06/08/2017 6:00:19 PM PDT by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! And please, God, bless the USA again.)
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To: elpadre

But that’s exactly it. The whole Russia thing is innuendo. It is starting to sound like a cliche, but if the Hillary camp is making an accusation you could probably take it to the bank that what they accuse others of doing is the very thing they are doing themselves.

The Trump/Russia thing never made any sense. Are we supposed to believe that Donald Trump, a man who’s been in the public eye for more than four decades, somehow is or was a Russian stooge? What a great cover - he disguised himself as a billionaire so nobody would think he’s a communist? I know Russia isn’t communist anymore but it was when he was making his billions. And Putin? He was a high ranking KGB intelligence officer. He has run Russia for decades - sometimes from behind the scenes but always lurking. Are we to believe that he needed Trump to tell him whom to hack? The whole thing makes no sense.

Now there is some irony here. Seems to me the main accusation is that Russia spread anti-Hillary propaganda in the media and through websites and blogs. The irony being, he used our First Amendment against us. But even this allegation is hard to beleive. Hillary claims “1000 Russian Agents” - ludicrous. They would have to be the least productive people in the word. What did they work in teams of 50 each producing 1 new idea every 30 days? As you ask, what exactly did they do? There are some allegations they tried to hack some voting machines. I don’t know either way but I have been opposed to those machines for this very reason. Not Russians per se, but anyone. Whomever counts the votes controls the outcome.

It is a lot more plausible to believe that the DNC had a leaker instead of a hacker. I don’t know all the details but there is plenty of murky stuff out there. The whole Awan brothers issue is bizarre and I only know a tiny bit of that story.

Now the Trump+Russia smoke has been blowing for a year and there is not a shred of evidence of any collusion. And in all likelihood collusion in and of itself is not even a crime. So I ask myself, why are they blowing so much smoke? I gotta think perhaps it is because smoke obscures the eyes. Obviously I don’t know for sure but I refer you back to the first paragraph in this post. What are Hillary’s and the DNC’s connection to Russia? They found nothing on Trump. But on Hillary there is a lot of stuff. We know that a Russian oligarch is the single largest donor to the Clinton Foundation. This same person also received Hillary’s approval to take over Uranium One. We know he paid Bill Clinton personally $500,000 to give a speech. And we know Hillary was instrumental in luring many American tech companies to transfer technology to a Russian technolgy park called Skolvoko which the FBI later said was just an elaborate industrial espionage scheme. And ever single one of those tech firms were also donors to the Clinton Foundation.

Going one step further, I see Hillary was outmaneuvered by Putin many times. She failed twice to “reset” relations. She got lured into the Skolvoko scam. She signed off on the Uranium One deal. And if that wasn’t enough, she was completely blindsided by the Syrian’s inviting Russian forces in to help protect Assad’s regime. I am still amazed that the American people and the media did not run her out of Washington for raising billions in private money into a fund she controls while serving as Secretary of State. The appearance of impropriety is astonishing and yet it was practically ignored. And Hillary was probably so busy raising money to fund her future lavish living, and then plotting her path to the White House, that she simply did not forsee that Russia would walk right into Syria under the Obama admin’s nose. And this is being generous. Either they were asleep, or they were complicit. Either way it is scandalous and disqualifying for a candidate for POTUS. Assuming she was embarassed by the whole thing, she then doubled down on stupid by campaigning that we engage in open hostility with Russia by instituting a no-fly zone over Syria.

So Trump simply said “why can’t we try to have better relations with Russia? Why this hostility?” and the Clinton team used that totally reasonable question - which is the exact same idea Clinton herself tried to promote during Obama’s first term - as an excuse to claim Trump must be in bed with Putin because he doesn’t want to go to war with them.


102 posted on 06/08/2017 10:38:53 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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